November 18, 1909

MESSAGE FROM HIS EXCELLENCY-ESTIMATES FOR 1910-11.

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Hon. W. S.@

FIELDING (Minister of Finance) delivered a message from His Excellency the Governor General.

Mr. SPEAKER read the message as follows :

Guet.

The Governor General transmits to the House of Commons, estimates of sums required for the service of the Dominion for the year ending on the 31st March, 1911, and, in accordance with the provisions of ' The British North American Act, 1867,' the Governor General recommends these estimates to the House of Commons.

Government House,

Ottawa, 18th Nov., 1909.

On.motion of Mr. Fielding, His Excellency's message, together with the estimates, was referred to the Committee of Supply.

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SELECT STANDING COMMITTEES.


Sir WILFRID LAURIER presented to the House the report of the special committee appointed to prepare lists of members to compose the Select Standing Committees of the House, as follows:



No. 1. ON PRIVILEGES AND ELECTIONS. Messieurs Aylesworth, Kyte, Barker, Lafortune, Barnard, Lancaster, Borden, (Halifax), Lapointe, Bristol, Lemieux, Brodeur, Lennox, Bureau, Lewis, Carvell, Macdonald, Chisholm (Antigonish),McColl, Cowan, Maddin, Crocket, Major, Crothers, Martin (Regina), Demers, Meighen, Devlin, Monk, Doherty, Northrup, Dubeau. Porter, Emmerson, Pugsley, Geoffrion, Rhodes, German, Rivet, Gervads, Roy (Montmagny) Haggart (Lanark), Sifton, Haggart (Winnipeg), Stratton, and Warburton.-45.



No. 2. ON RAILWAYS, CANALS AND TELEGRAPH LINES. Messieurs Allen, Macdonald, Ames, Macdonell, Armstrong, Maclean (York, S.), Arthurs, MacNutt, Barker, McAllister, Barnard, McCall, Barr, McCoig, Beattie, McColf, Beauparlant, McCraney, Beland, MoGiverin, Bickerdike, McKenzie, Blain, McLean (Huron), Blondin, McLean (Sunbury), Boyce, McMillan, Boyer, Maddin, Bradbury, Magrath, Bristol, Major, Broder, Marcile (Bagot), Brown, Marshall, Burrell, Martin (Montreal, St. Campbell, Mary's), Carrier, Martin (Regina), Carvell, Martin (Wellington), Cash, Mayrand, Champagne, Meighen, Chew, Meigs, Chisholm Michaud, (Antigonish), Middlebro,


LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

Chisholm (Huron), Chisholm (Inverness), Clare,

Clark (Red Deer), Clarke (Essex), Congdon,

Conmee,

Cowan,

Crocket,

Crosby,

C rot hers,

Currie,

(Prince Edward), Currie (Simcoe), Daniel,

Delisle,

Demers,

Devlin,

Doherty,

Donnelly,

Douglas,

Dubeau,

Ecrement,

Edwards,

Elson,

Emmerson,

Ethier,

Fielding,

Forget,

Fortier,

Foster,

Fowke,

Fraser,

Gauvreau,

Geoffrion,

German,

Gervais,

Girard,

Gladu,

Goodeve,

Gordon (Kent),

Gordon (Nipissing), Graham,

Guthrie,

Haggart (Lanark), Haggart (Winnipeg), Harris,

Harty,

Henderson,

Herron,

Hodgins,

Hughes,

Hunt, [DOT]

Jameson,

Kidd,

Knowles,

Kyte,

Lachance,

Lafortune,

Lake,

Lalor,

Lancaster,

Lanctot (Laprairie-Napierville), Lanctot (Richelieu), Lapointe,

Lavergne,

Law,

LeBlanc,

Lennox,

Lewis,

Loggie,

Lortie,

Lovell,

Low,

Miller,

Molloy,

Monk,

Murphy,

Nantel,

Neely,

Nesbitt,

Northrup,

Oliver,

Osier,

Owen,

Papineau,

Paquet,

Pardee,

Parent,

Perley,

Pickup,

Porter,

Price,

Proulx,

Prowse,

Pugsley,

Rankin,

Reid (Grenville),

Reid (Restigouche), Rhodes,

Richards,

Rivet,

Roche,

Ross (Rimouski),

Roy (Dorchester),

Roy (Montmagny), Russell,

Rutan,

Savoie,

Schaffner,

Schell,

Sealey,

Seguin,

Sexsmith,

Sharpe (Lisgar), Sharpe (Ontario), Sifton,

Sinclair,

Smith (Middlesex), Smith (Nanaimo),

| Smith (Stormont), Smyth,

Sproule,

Stanfield,

Staples,

Stewart,

Stratton,

Talbot,

Taylor (New Westminster),

Thoburn,

Thornton,

Tobin,

Todd,

Tolmie,

Turcotte (Nicolet), Turcotte (Quebec County),

Turgeon,

Turriff,

Verville,

Wallace,

War burton,

White (Renfrew), White (Victoria, Alta), Wilson (Laval), Worthington, and Wright.-199.

And that the quorum of the said committee do consist of twenty-five members.

No. 3. ON MISCELLANEOUS PRIVATE BILLS.

Messieurs

Ames,

Arthurs,

Aylesworth,

Beland,

Black,

Blondin,

Boyce,

Boyer,

Bradbury,

Broder,

Brodeur,

Bureau,

Burrell,

Campbell,

Chisholm (Huron), Clarke (Essex), Conrnee,

Cowan,

Ciocket,

Crosby,

Currie

(Prince Edward), Daniel,

Devlin,

Donnelly,

Elson, \

Ethier,

Fisher,

Fowke,

Fraser,

Gauvreau,

Girard,

Gladu,

Goodeve,

Gordon (Kent), Guthrie,

Harris,

Harty,

Hunt,

Jameson,

King:,

Knowles,

And that the do consist

Lachance,

Lake,

Lalor,

Lavergne,

LeBlanc,

Lcitie,

Macdonald,

Macdonell,

Maclean (York, S.), McCoig,

McGiverin,

McKenzie,

McLean (Sunbury), McMillan,

Magrath,

Martin (Wellington), Meighen,

Meigs,

Middlebro,

Monk,

Murphy,

Nantel,

Owen,

Papineau,

Parent,

Proulx,

Piowse, *

Robb,

Schaffner,

Sealey,

Sexsmith,

Sharpe (Ontario), Smith (Stormont), . Stewart,

Stratton,

Talbot,

Tobin To Imie,

Turcotte

(Quebec County), Turgeon,

Turriff,

White (Renfrew), White (Victoria,

Alberta), and Worthington.-85.

committee

quorum of the said of ten members.

No. i.

ON STANDING ORDERS. Messieurs

Barr,

Black,

Brown,

Burrell, Champagne, Chisholm (Huron), Clare,

Fortier,

Goodeve, Henderson, Jameson,

Knowles,

Kyte,

Lake,

Lancaster, Lavergne,

Law,

LeBlanc,

Meigs,

Miller,

Molloy,

Papineau,

Price,

Reid (Restigouche), Ross (Rimouski), Roy (Mentmagny), Russell,

Rutan,

Seguin,

Sharpe (Lisgar), Smyth,

Staples,

Thoburn,

Thointon,

Todd,

Tolmie,

Low.

MacNutt,

MacCarthy,

McCoig,

McCraney,

McGiverin,

Maddin,

Marcile (Bagot), Marshall (Wellingl

Turcotte (Quebec County),

Turgeon,

Turriff,

Verville,

White (Renfrew), Wilson (Lennox and Addington), and , Wright.-53.

And that the Quorum of the said Committee do consist of seven Members.

No. 5.

ON PRINTING. Messieurs

Allen,

Bickerdike,

Bristol,

Douglas,

Fowke,

Gervais,

Gordon (Nipissing), Henderson,

Hughes,

King,

Lavergne,

Maclean (York, S.), McColl,

McIntyre,

McLean (Huron),

Magrath,

Martin

(Montreal,St.Mary's), Nantel,

Pardee,

Rhodes,

Taylor (Leeds),

Taylor (New Westminster), Verville,

White (Victoria, Alberta), and Wilson (Lennox and Addington).-25.

No. 6.

ON PUBLIC ACCOUNTS. Messieurs

Loggie, Macdonald, MacNutt, McAllister, McCoig,

McColl, McCraney, McKenzie, Maddin,

Martin (Regina), Meighen, 'Michaud,

Allen,

Ames,

Barker,

Barnard,

Beauparlant,

Beland,

Blain,

Blondin,

Boyce,

Carvell,

Cash,

Chew., _

Chisholm (Antigonish), Middlebro,

Chisholm (Inverness), Clarke (Essex), Congdon,

Cowan,

Crocket,

Crosby,

Crothers,

Currie (Simcoe), Daniel,

Demers,

Doherty,

Ecrement,

Fielding,

Foster,

Fowke,

Geoffrion,

German,

Gervais,

Goodeve,

Hughes,

Haggart (Lanark), Kyte,

Lake,

Lancaster,

Lanct6t (Richelieu), Lapointe,

Law,

Lennox,

Molloy,

Neely,

Nesbitt,

Northrup,

Pardee,

Parent,

Pickup,

Porter,

Proulx,

Provvse,

Pugsley,

Rankin,

Reid (Grenville), Reid (Restigouche), Rhodes,

Richards,

Roche,

Savoie,

Schell,

Sharpe (Ontario), Sinclair,

Smith (Nanaimo), Stanfield,

Taylor (Leeds), Tobin,

Wallace, Warburton, and

W orthington.-82.

And that the quorum of the said committee do consist of twenty-one members.

No. 7.

ON BANKING AND COMMERCE. Messieurs

Allen,

Ames,

Arthurs,

Aylesworth,

Barker,

Barnard,

Beattie,

Beauparlant,

Beland,

Bickerdike,

Blaiu,

Borden (Sir

Frederick),

Borden (Halifax), Boyce,

Bradbury

Bristol,

Bureau,

Carrier,

Carvell,

Cash,

Chew,

Clark (Red Deer), Conmee,

Cowan,

Crothers,

Currie (Simcoe), Delisle,

Demers,

Doherty,

Douglas,

Dubeau,

Ecrement,

Edwards,

Emmerson,

Fielding,

Fisher,

Forget,

Fortier,

Foster,

Fraser,

Gauvreau,

Geoffrion,

Gervais,

Gladu,

Goodeve,

Gordon (Kent), Gordon (Nipissing), Guthrie,

Haggart (Winnipeg), Harris,

Harty,

Henderson,

Herron,

Hughes,

Jameson,

Knowles,

Lachance,

Lake,

Lalor,

Lanctot

(Laprairie-Napierville),

Lanctot,

(Richelieu),

Lavergne,

Law,

Lovell,

Low,

Macdonald,

Macdonell,

Maclean (York, S.), McCall, , McCarthy, McCraney, McGiverin, McIntyre,

McLean (Huron), McLean (Sunbury), McMillan,

Magrath,

Marshall,

Martin (Regina), Mayra nd,

Meighen,

Michaud,

Miller,

Monk,

Nesbitt,

Osier,

Owen,

Paquet,

Pardee,

Papineau,

Paterson,

Perley,

Pickup,

Porter,

Price,

Pugsley,

Rankin,

Reid (Grenville), Reid (Restigouche), Richards,

Rivet,

Robb,

Roche,

Ross (Rimouski), Roy (Dorchester), Russell,

Savoie,

Sealey,

Seguin,

Sharpe (Lisgar), Sifton,

Sinclair,

Smith (Middlesex), Smyth,

Sproule,

Stewart,

Stratton,

Talbot,

Taylor (Leeds), Taylor (New Westminster), Thoburn,

Tobin,

Todd,

Turcotte (Nicolet),

Wallace,

Warburton,

White (Victoria, Alberta),

Wilson (Laval),

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LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

Lemieux, Wilson (Lennox and

Loggie, Addington), and

Lortie, Worthington.-133.

And that the Quorum of the said Committee do consist of Twenty-one Members.

No. 8.

AGRICULTURE AND COLONIZATION. Messieurs

Allen,

Armstrong,

Arthurs,

Barr,

Beauparlant,

Beland,

Black,

Blain,

Blondin,

Boyer,

Braunury,

Broder,

Brown,

Burrell,

Campbell,

Carrier,

Carvell,

Cash,

Champagne,

Chew,

Chisholm

(Antigonish), Chisholm (Huron), Chisholm (Inverness), Clare,

Clark (Red Deer), Conmee,

Currie

(Prince Edward), Currie (Simcoe), Delisle,

Devlin,

Donnelly,

Douglas,

Ecrement,

Edwards,

Elson,

Ethier,

Fisher,

Fraser,

Gauvreau,

Girard,

Gordon (Kent), Gordon (Nipissing), Harris,

Henderson,

Herron,

Hodgins,

Hughes,

Hunt,

Jameson,

Kidd,

King,

Lafortune,

Lake,

Lalor,

Lanctot (Laprairie-

Napierville),

Lavergne,

LeBlanc,

Lennox,

Lewis,

Lortie,

Lovell,

Low,

McCall,

McCarthy,

McCoig,

McColl,

McIntyre,

McLean (Huron), McMillan,

M addin,

Magrath,

Major,

Marcile (Bagot), Marshall,

Martin (Montreal, St. Mary's),

Martin (Wellington), Maynand,

Meighen,

Meigs,

Middlebro,

Miller,

Molloy,

Monk,

Nantel,

Neely,

Oliver,

Owen,

Paquet,

Parent,

Pickup,

Proulx,

Rankin,

Richards,

Robb,

Roche,

Ross (Rimouski), Rutan,

Savoie,

Schaffner,

Schell,

Sealey,

Seguin,

Sexsmith,

Sharpe (Lisgar) Sharpe (Ontario), Sinclair,

Smith (Middlesex), Smith (Nanaimo), Smith (Stormont), Smyth,

Sproule,

Stanfield,

Staples,

Stewart,

Talbot,

Thornton,

Tobin,

Todd,

Tolmie, _

Turcotte (Nicolet), Turgeon,

Turriff,

Verville,

Wallace,

White (Renfrew), Wilson (Laval),

Macdonald, Wilson (Lennox and

MacNntt, Addington), and

McAllister, Wright.-131.

And that the quorum of the said committee do consist of twelve members.

No. 9. ON MARINE AND FISHERIES.

Clark (Red Deer), Clarke (Essex), Ethier,

Gervais,

Guthrie,

Hodgins,

McCarthy,

McLean (Huron), Schaffner,

Taylor (Leeds), and Taylor (New Westminster).-15.

And that the quorum of the said committee do consist of five members.

Messieurs

Bickerdike,

Bradbury,

Brodeur,

Chisholm (Inverness) Clarke (Essex), Crosby,

Currie (Simcoe), Daniel,

Fraser,

Gervais,

Jameson,

Kyte,

Loggie,

Macdonald,

McKenzie,

Middlebro,

. Monk,

Nantel,

Pardee,

Sinclair,

Smith (Nanaimo), Taylor (New Westminster), Tcdd,

Turgeon, and Warburton.-25.

And that the quorum of the said committee do consist of ten members.

No. 10.

ON MINES AND MINERALS. Messieurs

Blondin,

Burrell,

Chisholm

(Antigonish),

Congdon,

Conmee,

Devlin,

I'ouglas,

Good eve, _

Gordon (Nipissing), Herron,

Lanctot (Richelieu)

Lortie,

Ma cdonald, McCarthy,

McCoig,

McMillan,

Maddin,

Prcwse,

Rhodes,

Smith (Nanaimo), Smyth,

Stratton,

Tempieman, and

Lcggie, Tu riff.-25.

And that the quorum of the said committee do consist of ten members.

No. 13. ON THE LIBRARY.

Messieurs

Aylesworth, Foster,

Beland, Laurier (Sir Wilfrid),

Borden (Halifax), Lemieux,

Borden (Sir Fred'k), Lewis,

Bristol, Monk,

Brodeur, Pardee,

Daniel, Pugsley, and

Doherty, Smith (Nanaimo).-16.

On motion of Sir Wilfrid Laurier the report was adopted.

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PRINTING OF PARLIAMENT.

LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER moved:

That a message be sent to the Senate to acquaint their honours that this House will unite with them in the formation of a Joint Committee of both Houses on the subject of the printing of parliament, and that the members of the Select Standing Committee on Printing, namely, Messrs. Allen, Bickerdike, Bristol, Douglas, Fowke, Gervais, Gordon (Nipissing), Henderson, Hughes, King, Lav-ergne, Maclean (South York), McColl, McIntyre, McLean (Huron), Magrath, Martin (Montreal, St. Mary's), Nantel, Pardee, Rhodes, Taylor (Leeds), Taylor (New Westminster), Verville, White (Victoria, Alta.), and Wilson (Lennox and Addington), will act as members, on the part of this House, on the said Joint Committee on the Printing of Parliament.

No. 11.

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Motion agreed to.


ON FORESTS, WATERWAYS AND WATER-POWERS.


Messieurs Arthurs, Beland, Boyce, Campbell, Carvell, Chew, Currie (Prince Edward), Edwards, Fisher, Fowke, Haggart (Lanark), MacNutt, McLean (Sunbury), Magrath, Molloy, Monk, Perley, Pickup, Price, Richards, Savoie, Sifton, Tobin, White (Renfrew), White (Victoria, Alberta), and Wilson (Laval).-26. And that the quorum of the said committee do consist of ten members. No. 12. OFFICIAL REPORT OF DEBATES. Messieurs Black, Hughes, Blondin, Knowles,


LIBRARY OF PARLIAMENT.

LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER moved:

That a message be sent to the Senate to inform their honours that this House has appointed Messrs. Aylesworth, Beland, Borden (Halifax), Sir Frederick Borden, Bristol, Brodeur, Daniel, Doherty, Foster, Sir Wilfrid Laurier, Lemieux, Lewis, Monk, Pardee, Pugsley, and Smith (Nanaimo), a committee to assist His Honour the Speaker in the direction of the Library of parliament, so far as the interests of the House of Commons are concerned, and to act on behalf of the House of Commons as members of a joint committee of both Houses on the Library.

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Motion agreed to.


LOAD LINES ON SHIPS.

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Mr. E. N.@

LEWIS (West Huron) moved for leave to introduce Bill (No. 10) respecting load lines on ships.

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Explain.

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CON

Edward Norman Lewis

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LEWIS.

The Bill which I now wish to present to the House has for its purpose the cessation of those regrettable, fatal and avoidable accidents which happen to ships on the coastal waters of Canada and on the Great Lakes. During the past few years there have occurred many such. I instance the wrecks of the Asia, Jones, Bannockburn and others on the Great Lakes which have occasioned great loss of life and property, caused principally by overloading. This Bill is founded on the English Plimsoll Act and also upon a clause with respect to the loading of ships engaged in the maritime coasting trade of Canada, with which I am not so familiar as with the conditions on the Great Lakes, but this feature of the Bill is founded on a Bill presented to the House some sessions ago by Mr. Lawrence, of Nova Scotia. There was some exception taken to a clause in a similar Bill by the large transportation companies, which provided that lists of passengers and crews should be placed in the hands of customs officer, harbour master or wharfinger, before a vessel left port after the 15th day of September and before the 15th day of April in each year, the period to which this Bill only applies. I have changed that clause by expunging from it the provision with reference to ferry steamers, river steamers and excursion steamers. Otherwise it follows upon the lines of the English Plimsoll Act. Clause eight seeks to prevent too much loading on deck in the fall and winter.

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November 18, 1909