March 26, 1909

LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

It is the old form. If my hon. friend thinks it will help to leave them out I will not object.

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CON
LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

Yes, I think so. The practice in past years was for the Minister of Finance to appoint them. I was away at the time and I think the Auditor General appointed them himself. I know nothing to the contrary.

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CON

Samuel Barker

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BARKER.

There would be every objection, from my point of view, to the government appointing any clerks in the audit

office.

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William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

They have always been appointed by the government.

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CON

Samuel Barker

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BARKER.

I think that is a mistake. The commission that has been created should appoint the staff in the Auditor General's office.

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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

The Civil Service Act makes no distinction between the Auditor General's office and any other office.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

It is not intended that these clerks shall continue to be employed beyond a certain period?

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William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

No, the vote is only $500 for the whole of them.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

I thought that possibly that was for the reason that the fiscal year terminates on the 31st of March and you only require to make provision for five weeks.

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William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

They are only there for a short time and only for the special purpose of dealing with the accounts of the election officers.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

Assuming that the circumstances are such as the hon. Minister of Finance has disclosed, the case is not as grave as I thought it was. But I think it is extremely desirable that we should not see this memorandum appearing in the estimates. It has been of frequent occurrence in the past although, I am glad to say, it has been of rather infrequent occurrence this session. It seems to me that it should disappear altogether. My attention was directed to this item by my hon. friend from North Toronto who desired to make some inquiries in regard to it.

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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

I do not see that the words are very important and they can be stricken out. We have to get authority to pay the money.

Department of Finance and Treasui'y Board-contingencies-funther amount required, $2,000.

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William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

The sum required for the year was under-estimated and we need an additional vote.

Marine and Fisheries Department-amount required to pay salary of Mr. Oswald L. McLeod at the rate of $800 per annum, $363.41.

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LIB

Louis-Philippe Brodeur (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. BRODEUR.

Mr. McLeod was appointed on the 18th of October, 1898, and owing to his special qualifications in the hardware trade he was to receive a salary of $800, but only $500, the usual salary of a temporary clerk was allowed, the Department of Justice being of the opinion that he should rank as a temporary officer. Considering the nature of Mr. McLeod's work it was thought he should have a salary of $800 and this vote is to give him that salary. It was impossible for him to present himself for competitive examination because no examination was held, but he will do so at the next examination.

To complete voters' lists for general election, 4908, $22,000.

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James Kirkpatrick Kerr (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

Yes.

To provide for promotion of W. A. Lalonde from permanent messengers' staff to third-class clerk at $800, $166.66.

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March 26, 1909