March 26, 1909

LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux (Minister of Labour; Postmaster General)

Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX.

I have not changed my mind on the subject. I think I informed my hon. friend privately last year when the question came up, that the reason why I thought it unadvisable to issue a special stamp for the benefit of the tuberculosis hospital, was that we had just issued a series of stamps in connection with the Quebec Tercentenary. Besides, it is not considered advisable for any country to multiply special stamps; in fact, it is considered infra dignitatem by the Postal Union to issue special stamps unless it is for such purposes as that of last summer. But I can assure my hon. friend, and all the friends of the hospital fund, and of the movement against tuberculosis, that it is my desire and my aim to help as much as possible that' deserving movement. If it is clearly demonstrated that the issuing of such a special stamp, as is issued in Denmark, and I believe in one or two

other countries in Europe, would yield an amount which will substantially aid that fund, then I am open to conviction. In fact I have been reading many papers on the subject, and I hope that the time may come when I shall be able to realize the hon. gentleman's wishes.

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George Halsey Perley

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PERLEY.

I would call the attention of the hon. member for South Grey (Mr. Miller) to these remarks of the Postmaster General. I hope he has been listening to them.

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Clarence Jameson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. JAMESON.

I have received a petition from the railway mail clerks, and while I do not desire to take up the time of the committee at this stage, I find another feature is presented by the correspondence susequently received, and that is in respect to a class of clerks who have not passed the examination and are not on the regular staff, but are nevertheless performing the services of those officials. It appears they are receiving very meagre remuneration, although they are obliged to travel long distances, and are subject to the same chances of accident as the others. They respectfully request that the minister will consider their petition for an increase of salary when he deals with the permanent clerks.

Further amount required for miscellaneous expenditure, 1908-9, Department of Labour, including printing and stationery, allowance to correspondents, travelling expenses, &c., $6,500.

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LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux (Minister of Labour; Postmaster General)

Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX.

This amount is required to meet the estimated expenditures to the end of the financial year. The expenditure is due to the heavy travelling expenses of the various officers of the department and to the increased charges for printing, &c.

Amount required to provide for the expenses of W. L. Mackenzie King, M.P., as a representative of Canada at the Joint Opium Conference at Shanghai, China, $5,500.

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Rodolphe Lemieux (Minister of Labour; Postmaster General)

Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX.

This amount is required to provide for the expenses of Mr. Mackenzie King as the representative of Canada at the joint Opium Conference at Shanghai, China. The committee knows the object of the conference. For some years there has been a desire to suppress the use of opium and morphine in China, and the great powers, especially Great Britain and the United States of America, have decided, with the consent of China, to call a conference in order to study the question as to what are the best means of suppressing that evil. Canada was invited by the foreign office in London to join that conference. Mr. Mackenzie King was especially well equipped to take part in it. He had studied this question of the opium traffic and last year we introduced a Bill into

this House to suppress it in Canada. Mr. Mackenzie King is now in China; he has taken part in the conference, as usual, to his credit and to the credit of the country to which he belongs. I have not yet his report, but from what I have seen of the cables that appeared in the London 'Times' Mr. Mackenzie King has been one of the leading men in the conference.

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LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux (Minister of Labour; Postmaster General)

Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX.

The conference is between the different nations, Great Britain, the United States, Germany, France, China and Japan, and perhaps others, but I name the large powers which have interests in the far east. The object of the conference is to suppress gradually the use of opium and morphine.

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LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux (Minister of Labour; Postmaster General)

Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX.

Yes; Mt. King is accompanied by a secretary.

Civil governnemt-Governor General's secretary's office-contingencies-further amount required, $6,000.

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William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Hon. W. S. FIELDING (Minister of Finance).

This is an additional sum required for the contingencies of the Governor General's office chiefly due to the increase in the cost of telegrams. There has been a very large amount of cable business.

Office of the Auditor General-contingencies -clerical and other assistance-to pay the following extra clerks from the 28th June, 1909, notwithstanding anything in the Civil Service Act:-C. M. Low, M. A. Reid, D. M. Gibson, W. M. Greenshields, E. M. Stitt, E. M. Fraser, Bertha McCuaig, :M. (Macdonald, Isabella MIntosh, L. Chartrand and H. R. Washington, $500.

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William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

Under the Civil Service Act the Auditor General had employed a number of temporary clerks who could only be employed, according to the strict wording of the Act, for four months. When the four months expired, to comply strictly writh the Act, he would be obliged to dismiss these clerks and bring in others. As they were engaged in work that was rather urgent, checking the election officers' accounts, the Auditor General came to me and said that he thought it was undesirable that these officers should go. I agreed with him that he should continue them for a short time, although I pointed out that it would necessitate a special vote as they are not employed in strict accordance with the Civil Service Act.

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Richard Blain

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLAIN.

This is an item in regard to which my hon. friend from North Toronto (Mr. Foster) wished to make some remarks.

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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

I would suggest that the item pass and an opportunity will be given to the hon. gentleman to discuss it at a future time. I would like to get this through this evening. It is only $500.

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Andrew George Blair

Mr. BLAIR.

My hon. friend from North Toronto mentioned this particularly to me and said that if it came up he would like to have it stand over.

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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

It will delay the Supply Bill. If my hon. friend presses it I cannot insist upon it going through, but I will give my hon. friend the assurance that there will be abundant opportunity for discussing it and I hope he will allow it to pass under these conditions.

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CON

Samuel Barker

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BARKER.

Of course we ought to get rid of those words 'notwithstanding anything in the Civil Service Act.' I thought we had got rid of them.

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William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

I think we have got Tid of them pretty well.

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March 26, 1909