March 5, 1909

CON

William Price

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PRICE.

What price was paid to the Bank of Montreal-as I believe the Bank of Montreal bought the property from Carrier, Laine & Company.

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William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

The Carrier Laine property was expropriated, and we expect to pay $380,000 for it.

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CON

William Price

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PRICE.

I find in a Quebec paper that some one has sent me, a report that a syndicate has leased a part of this property, or the old shops that were there, and it mentions that the syndicate was composed the Hon. S. N. Parent, Sir Charles Ross

M. P. Davis and others. May I ask if that is the case.

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

Not to finish it, but to continue it during the present year The work is a very large one, if the whole plan is carried out to completion.

Mr PRICE There is a great deal of complaint m Quebec because we have not got the proper harbour improvements. I would like to ask the Minister of Public Works when the government proposes to do more harbour improvements in Que-bee. I do not know whether the minister is aware that, owing to lack of harbour facilities, no heavy pieces of iron can be landed at our wharf because there is no derrick sufficiently strong. Besides that, the wharf accommodation is altogether too Jimited. Up to the end of last year only two steamers could land their passengers at the same time. Several times this year, when two steamers desired to land their passengers, one had to anchor out in the stream and wait till the other one alongside the wharf was able to get away. I would like to know if the extension that will be carried out this year will give us room for three steamers to lie alongside each other at the same time.

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William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

We recognize the fact that the accommodation for ocean steamers at Quebec is limited, and that is why this extensive work is being undertaken. My h'on. friend asks when more accommodation will be given. We expect it will be given Mr. PUGSLEY.

during the coming season, and that is what the appropriation of $280,000 is for. As the hon. gentleman is aware, there has already been constructed a concrete pier extending for a considerable distance into the St. Lawrence. Now we are building another pier around on the Charles river and dredging out a channel there-it is the return to the wharf. That will give considerable accommodation. The assistant deputy minister tells me that by July there will be accommodation there for three large ocean steamers at this new pier.

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William Price

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PRICE.

I understand that the Grand Trunk Pacific will be finished within the next two or three years and if it carries the amount of grain that it is supposed to carry to Quebec I do not see that we have proper accommodation there to handle that trade. It will be necessary to continue the harbour improvements. I would like to know from the Minister of Public Works if the government will continue the policy of improving the harbour from Quebec up to Sillery and also what the policy is with regard to the terminal facilities; that is the railway line from the present site of the bridge to Quebec itself.

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William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

The question which my hon. friend is now asking is one which appertains to the Minister of Railways and Canals.

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

The whole of it belongs to the Department of Railways and Canals for the reason that the terminals of the Grand Trunk Pacific Railway at Quebec will be a part of the Transcontinental Railway system. Therefore, it would not appertain to the Department of Public Works.

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

They would form part of the Transcontinental Railway system.

I think that is the expectation; I am not prepared to say positively.

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

It will be a very large work. I may say to my hon. friend that the question of terminal facilities at Quebec has not been lost sight of by the government. We recognize that terminal facilities must be provided at the ocean ports and that it is desirable, if possible, to have them ready by the time the Transcontinental Railway is finished. The matter of terminals at Quebec is receiving, at the present time, very careful consideration, but just what will be done I am not prepared^ to say. If my hon. friend will repeat his question when the estimate respecting the Transcontinental Railway is under discussion I have no doubt my hon.

friend the Minister of Railways and Canals will be prepared to give him a satisfactory answer.

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CON

William Price

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PRICE.

In case the Minister of Railways and Canals finds that it does not come under the Transcontinental Railway,

I suppose I will have an opportunity of asking the Minister of Public Works a question?

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

Yes.

Red river improvements-St. Andrew's rapids, $600,000.

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William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

This amount is to continue the work of building the locks on the Red river. St. Andrew's Rapids on the Red river are about thirty miles north of Winnipeg. The expectation is that this will give lake navigation from this very extensive lake which is 300 miles in length, right to the city of Winnipeg. It is expected that $600,000 will be expended during the present year on locks and gates and that this will complete the work.

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CON

George Henry Bradbury

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BRADBURY.

Would the minister inform me whether that includes the bridge or not?

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CON

George Henry Bradbury

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BRADBURY.

I would like to know whether there has been any arrangement made for the completion of the connection between the bridge and the highways? There are very important settlements on both sides of the river and I have a communication from the municipality of St. Andrew's calling my attention to the fact that the present contract does not provide for connection with the highways on both sides of the river. Consequently, the bridge would be useless as far as traffic is concerned. This is a very important matter to these people. During the late campaign a great deal was made of the fact all along the river that the government had provided the people there with a bridge that will cost $600,000 and which will be used for traffic purposes. The municipalities inform me that it has come out lately that the present contract does not provide for approaches to the bridge. Does the minister intend to carry out the wishes of the people in that respect?

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March 5, 1909