Mr. CARVEL.

The hon. gentleman has only to talk about five minutes to show his absolute ignorance of the subject under discussion. When the work started and the engineers got their instructions from the officials in St. John they were directed to do the very thing, he has advocated, to take ten or twelve spots along the river and make a report. I recommend a prominent engineer and he spent a week on the work. He then said: I might as well stop the work and save money unless I am allowed to make a thorough survey and give information of some value. He said that if, he surveyed the six or seven places pointed out to him they would have no knowledge of the condition of the river between these two points, would not know whether there were three feet .or sixteen

feet, and at his solicitation I took up the matter with the Minister of Public Works and orders were given to make a thorough survey. It is just as well that my hon. friend and the people should know this. I have seen the plans and profile of the upper 25 or 30 miles of that work and there are three or four dozen places in this 24 miles that required the survey without which the department would have no knowledge on which to come to the conclusion as to the dredging of the river. If my hon. friend would spend as much time trying to find out /the facts of each case, as in reading a paper called the ' Gleaner,' published in Fredericton, which throws insulting terms at everybody employed by this government to do anything, he would know more about the subject than he has given evidence of to-night.

Mr. J. A. CURRIE.

Has it ever occurred to my hon. friend to have a branch of the Trent Valley canal built down the St. John river?

St. Andrews wharf, $18,000.

Mr. J. D. TAYLOR.

What will be the total cost?

Mr. PUGSLEY.

About $18,000.

Mr. CROCKET.

Was any work done last year?

Mr. PUGSLEY.

No, the contract is just being let.

St. John harbour-improvements, repairs, renewals, $25,000.

Mr. DANIEL.

What does the minister expect to do with that?

Mr. PUGSLEY.

The ordinary work that goes on, of repairing a breakwater and other work which might not be considered as a part of the national work. There is work at the Partridge Island pier.

Mr. DANIEL.

Has this anything to do with the work of the dredge 'Fielding?'

Mr. PUGSLEY.

No.

Seal Cove, Grand Manan island-breakwater pier, $32,000.

Mr. DANIEL.

Is that a new work?

Mr. PUGSLEY.

Partly. It is to extend the breakwater, part of which was swept away in the great storm.

Shippegan harbour-improvements in Ship-pegan gully, $3,500.

Mr. CROCKET.

There was an expenditure of $5,691 on this account last year. Among the items I see Loggie, W. S., rope, $21.89; spruce, $17; shingles, $13.75; hardware, $75.04, a total of $127.43. Is that the hon. member for Cumberland?

Mr. PUGSLEY.

I would suppose that must be some mistake because W. S. Loggie is not carrying on business. There is the W. S. Loggie Co.'y, Limited.

Mr. DANIEL.

Is Mr. Loggie a part of it?

Mr. PUGSLEY.

Yes, the company was incorporated twenty years ago.

Whitehead, Grand Manan wharf, $5,400.

Mr. PUGSLEY.

I think that will complete it.

Mr. CROCKET.

Is there a contract or is it day's work?

Mr. PUGSLEY.

A contract, $4,851.

Welchpool (Campobello island) wharf, $24,000.

Mr. J. D. TAYLOR.

This is another item that looks large to us in British Columbia who get appropriations in such small chunks.