July 6, 1908

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS.

LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

I promised the House the other day that I would state to-day the remaining programme for the session. I expected at that time that we should have an opportunity for conference on Saturday evening, when I should be able to arrange with my colleagues as to the programme. But the House was in the humour to work on Saturday evening, so there was not the opportunity for that conference. I will make a statement on the subject this afternoon.

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COST OF THE TRANSCONTINENTAL RAILWAY.

LIB

George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Hon. GEO. P. GRAHAM (Minister of Railways and Canals).

I desire to submit certain information respecting the Transcontinental and Grand Trunk Pacific Railways.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN (Carleton).

As this information is in response to no motion made in the House, I would suggest to the Minister of Railways and Canals, that he might move for leave to lay it on the table so that it can be formally before us and be made part of the records of this House.

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LIB

George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM.

I move for leave accordingly, Mr. Speaker.

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CON

George Eulas Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. GEO. E. FOSTER (North Toronto).

May I ask if there is any probability of our getting a later report of the commission. The minister has laid on the table the printed report of the commission which covers down to March 31, 1907. It seems to me the commission has not harmed itself by over-exertion in getting out its reports, considering that it is one year and several months behind time. Cannot it make up by getting out last year's report before par-383

liament rises ? Is it nearly ready now, or wholly ready ?

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LIB

George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM.

I have not heard anything about the report being made. Of course, conditions this year are peculiar. The House is in session away beyond the ordinary time of closing, and the report we were supposed to discuss this session is the one already before the House. I am trying to get information down to date as nearly as possible. I have not heard as to the position in relation to the report, but I will make inquiries.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

When the report does come down, it might be so framed as to give a good deal more information than does the report which has been laid on the table. There is a remarkable lack of information on many points in the commission's report; and I should think the leisure at their command would enable them to make a report much more satisfactory.

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Motion agreed to.


QUESTIONS.

YUKON-PUBLIC ADMINISTRATOR.

CON

Mr. FOSTER asked :

Conservative (1867-1942)

1. What, if any, steps have been taken to have an investigation into an audit of the account involved in the estates and trusts that came into the hands of F. T. Congdon, as public administrator in the Yukon?

2. Will the government lay on the table of the House a list of these estates and trusts with the disposition made of the same?

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LIB

Hon. FRANK OLIVER (Minister of the Interior) : (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

1. The matter of the audit of the account involved in the settlement of estates and trusts by the Public Administrator is one which under the law comes within the jurisdiction of the Yukon Territorial Court. There is no information here as to any steps having been taken by the commissioner to have such an audit made.

2. Yes. To the courts of the Yukon territory, where they are of record, will furnish them.

NATIONAL TRANSCONTINENTAL RAILWAY-CLASSIFICATION, DISTRICTS ' B ' AND ' F/

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CON

Haughton Lennox

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LENNOX asked :

Referring to letters of October 7, 1907, and April 28, 1908, from Mr. H. A. Woods, assistant chief engineer of the Grand Trunk Pacific Railway Company, to Mr. Lumsden, chief engineer of the eastern division of the National Transcontinental Railway, in the latter of which Mr. Woods says:

' Dear Sir,-This is to acknowledge receipt of your letter of April 24, in regard to classifications given on districts " B " and " F," wherein you say you could confer with me, either in Ottawa or Montreal, so as to arrange dates for arbitrating the points in dispute and for the appointment of a third arbitrator, &c.

' In reply thereto, will say that the action you propose cannot be taken until after you have complied with my request of October 7, which, as you will recall, has been several times repeated, that you and I personally make an inspection of those portions of the work on districts " B " and " F " where it is claimed improper classifiation has been made.

' Kindly let me know when it will be convenient for you to make this inspection, and I will place myself at your disposal/

Have Mr. Lumsden and Mr. Woods personally inspected the portions of the railway referred to since April 28 last? If so, when and with what result? If not, why not?

Mr. LENNOX asked

1. Have the matters and questions respecting alleged over-classification on portions of the eastern division of the National Transcontinental Railway complained of in a letter of October 7, 1907, and subsequent letters, from Mr. H. A. Woods, assistant chief engineer of the Grand Trunk Pacific Railway Company, to Mr. H. D. Lumsden, chief engineer of the eastern division, been referred to arbitration under the provisions of paragraphs 7 and 4 of the agreement, a copy of which forms the schedule to the National Transcontinental Railway Act If so, who are the three arbitrators?

2. When and how was the third arbitrator chosen or appointed?

3. When did the arbitrators enter upon their duties, and what progress have they made?

4. Where are the proceedings being carried on?

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LIB

George Perry Graham (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Hon. G. P. GRAHAM (Minister of Railways and Canals).

The answer will cover both these questions : Mr. Lumsden, chief engineer of the Transcontinental Railway Commission and Mr. Woods, assistant chief engineer of the Grand Trunk Pacific Railway Company have made an Inspection of disputed cuttings in district ' F,' and are now engaged in inspecting similar disputed classification in district * B,' as provided by paragraph 7 of the agreement, being the schedule to the National Transcontinental Railway Act. Their inspection not being yet completed they have made no report and matters have not yet reached the stage Mr. OLIVER.

where the appointment of a third arbitrator is necessary.

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INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY-TIES.

CON

Mr. STANFIELD asked :

Conservative (1867-1942)

1. Have new orders been issued respecting the delivery of ties upon the Intercolonial Railway ?

2. What time limit has been set for delivery of ties fox this year?

3. Has any change been made in inspection making two classes of ties as to quality?

4. What prices are being paid for the several classes of ties?

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LIB

Hon. G. P. GRAHAM (Minister of Railways and Canals) : (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

1. The time named in specification for delivery of ties was June 30, 1908, and notice was issued on June 16, 1908, that hemlock ties would not be accepted after that date.

2. The time limit set for the delivery of ties this year is June 30, 1908, as per classification.

3. No.

4. Prices paid for ties for the government railways are as follows : 30 cents

each for hemlock, 36 cents each for cedar, Princess pine, tamarack and juniper. The railway also paid 30 cents each for hardwood ties in Cape Breton and 30 cents each for some white pine and black spruce ties in the northern part of New Brunswick.

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CANADIAN ASSOCIATED PRESS.

July 6, 1908