June 22, 1908

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS.


On the orders of the day being read:


CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to inquire of the government at how early a date it is expected to bring down the remaining legislation that has already been mentioned by the right hon. Prime Minister (Sir Wilfrid Laurier) ; also whether there will be any supplementary estimates and, if so, when they will be brought down ? [DOT]

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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

There will be supplementary estimates. As to the date, I am unable to inform my hon. friend. As to the other portion of his question, I would prefer to communicate with my right hon. friend the Prime Minister who will be here later in the day.

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CIVIL SERVICE ACT AMENDMENT.

CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

I would like to inquire whether or not it is the intention of the government to introduce any resolutions upon which the Civil Service Bill will be founded. In looking over the Bill since its introduction I observe that it creates additional charges upon the public revenues of the country, in some cases by way of increase and in other cases by way of addi-

tionul appointments and offices which involve salaries. I think it is perfectly clear, under the authorities which are quoted in Bourinot, pages 569, 638 and 664, that in so far as these portions of the Bill are concerned, they must be founded upon resolutions and with the view of expediting the progress of the Bill, I thought it best to call the attention of the government to what seems to be an omission in order that the necessary resolutions may be introduced at the earliest possible moment.

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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

I think that it would probably be better to proceed by way of resolution and my hon. colleague (Mr. Fisher) has been contemplating that. It is possibly a debatable question whether this is actually an appropriation Bill or whether it is a Bill which is dependent upon later legislation. However, if there is any doubt it would be better to proceed by way of resolution and that will be done.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

With deference to my hon. friend the Minister of Finance, it seems clear to me that it is absolutely necessary because there are distinct charges upon the public revenue created by the Bill which are not in existence at the present time. The ordinary course is to introduce a resolution in the first instance, but there has been a practice sometimes of first introducing the Bill, leaving the money clauses in blank. However, not even that course has been pursued in the present case.

I have no doubt the House will not be disposed to be critical with regard to an important measure of this kind, and I think it would be'wise to have the omission corrected at the earliest possible moment.

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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

I agree with my hon. friend as to what has been the course in the past. However, this is one of those cases in which I think the proper procedure would be to proceed by resolution.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

My hon. friend the Minister of Finance will observe that there are distinct provisions as to salaries of deputy ministers generally and as to the salaries of three deputy ministers in particular. There is also the distinct provision that members of the Civil Service Commission shall have the same salary as an ordinary deputy minister. Therefore, it seems to be a very distinct case in which the legislation should be founded on a resolution.

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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

If that is so I think we would be hardly justified in paying any of these salaries without a distinct appropriation. However, 1 agree that it is better to proceed in the way my hon. friend suggests. There are cases in which reference is made to salaries but that does not create an appropriation Act. But, there is no difference of opinion between my hon. friend and myself as to the best procedure.

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CON

Robert Abercrombie Pringle

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PRINGLE.

I would like to ask the hon. Minister of Agriculture (Mr. Fisher) if

the commission would have power, under clause 10, to see as to the physical fitness of those applying for admission to the civil service, or whether there will be any provision in the Bill with regard to that. I think it is very important that the examination as to the physical condition of candidates should be such that they should be properly admitted to the civil service.

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LIB

Sydney Arthur Fisher (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. FISHER.

It has been contemplated that the w-ord ' health ' in the clauses referring to the examination of candidates would cover what my bon. friend (Mr. Pringle) indicates, but -these provisions should be subject to the rules and regulations of the commission.

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PEACE RIVER VALLEY LAND COMPANY.

L-C

Samuel Hughes

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. SAM. HUGHES.

I desire to ask the hon. Minister of the Interior (Mr. Oliver) in what condition the grant of land to the company in the Peace river valley now stands. The minister has had in contemplation the cancelling of the grant. I would like to know if he has cancelled the concession given to these people and if not, why there is any delay in cancelling it.

Mr. OLIVER, I have already informed the House that we have given the company-notice to show cause why the contract should not be cancelled. We delayed action on account of representations made by the company that they desired to have some time to put in a defence, the time they asked for being on account of the absence of some of their principal men from the country. I may say that recently my time has been very fuilv occupied in the House, that I have not had time to follow up the matter as I certainly otherwise would and as I intend to as soon as I have an opportunity.

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JUDGES' SALARIES."

CON

Haughton Lennox

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LENNOX.

I desire to address a question to the hon. Minister of Finance (Mr. Fielding) with reference to judges' salaries. I would like to inquire if it is a fact that application has been made by judges for their salaries and that it has been reported to them that their salaries cannot be paid because the money has not been voted.

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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

I could not answer my hon. friend without making inquiry into the matter. I have no knowledge of the matter but something may have occurred that lias not been brought to my notice. I will inquire and let him know.

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IMMIGRATION REGULATIONS.

CON

Haughton Lennox

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LENNOX.

I also desire to ask a question of the hon. Minister of the Interior (Mr. Oliver). It is reported in the press that an order in council has been passed by which certain Immigrants are required to have in their possession at least $200 when they come to the country. I would like to

ask the minister what class of people that applies to and if he will lay the order in council on the table.

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June 22, 1908