June 5, 1908

LIB

Frank Oliver (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

As soon as I have an opportunity to see the commissioner of immigration I will do so.

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QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE-MR. DANIEL.

CON

John Waterhouse Daniel

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. J. W. DANIEL (St. John).

As a question of privilege I desire to refer to some of the remarks made by the Minister of Finance last night when I was not present in the House. Referring to me and to the subject I brought to the attention of the House yesterday he said :

At an early stage of the session the hon. gentleman placed a notice on the paper intimating his intention to bring this matter before the House and he had abundant opportunity to do so but for his own reasons he did not avail himself of it, and months passed, and now in the seventh month of the session he has brought up the question at a time and in a manner which certainly is not calculated to advance the cause he claimed to have at heart. ... It was quite evident that the object of my hon. friend was not so much to invite the attention of the House to the matter as to join his friends in that policy of delaying the business of the House which in their judgment they have seen fit to pursue.

With regal'd to the latter statement I have to state that it is untrue in fact.

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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

Order.

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CON

John Waterhouse Daniel

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DANIEL.

Well, if there is any other parliamentary term that the bon. minister prefers that expresses the same idea, I will use that. The statement attributes a motive to me which did not exist. There is no basis for any such insinuation. I placed this proposed resolution on the Order Paper as early as the 13th of February. There were a very large number of resolutions on the Order Paper, and mine was not reached before the time came when the private members' day was taken away altogether. After that, on two occasions, at the most, I made arrangements to bring the matter up, but at the request of gentlemen who wished to speak upon it, I delayed it, and this was the first time

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LIB

Robert Franklin Sutherland (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

I hardly think the hon. member is out of order in explaining why he brought up this question yesterday, and not earlier.

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CON

John Waterhouse Daniel

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DANIEL.

I am not debating the question. I am simply giving the reasons why it was not brought up before. After the private members' day was taken, the only method left to me to bring this matter up at all was on the motion for the House to go into Committee of Supply, and I took the first clear opportunity that occurred to me to do so, and brought it up yesterday.

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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

As the hon. gentleman has been allowed to give the reasons why ho did certain things, I am at liberty to give the reasons why I made the observation I did. The hon. gentleman had ample time, long before the private members' day was taken by the government, to bring forward this matter, If be desired to treat it as a great and Important matter. I do not undertake to discuss the wisdom or unwisdom of the course he has pursued. As to whether or not he delayed the business of the House, I have nothing further to say than that the record of yesterday's proceedings will speak for itself.

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CON

John Waterhouse Daniel

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DANIEL.

It was only in the first week or two after the resoultion was put on the Order Paper, at the most that I had the opportunity to bring it up on private members' day.

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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

Private members' day stood for several months during the session.

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CON

John Waterhouse Daniel

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DANIEL.

There were previous motions on the paper and they took up the time.

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QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE-HON. MR.

PUGSLEY.

LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Hon. WM. PUGSLEY (Minister of Public Works).

Mr. Speaker, I desire to rise to a question of privilege. I was out of the House last evening, when, as I observe by the report in ' Hansard,' the bon. member for the county of York (Mr. Crocket) referred to the fact that I had, previous to coming to this parliament, taken an interest in this question of representation and that I had argued the question on behalf of the province before the Jndicial Committee of the Privy Council as well as before the Supreme Court, and he criticised quite severely my absence from the House and my not taking part in the discussion. Mr. Speaker, all that I desire to say is that I felt, and felt most strongly, that the hon. member for the city of St. John (Mr. Daniel) had brought this question before the House at a most in-

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Order. Mr. LENNOX

appropriate time-at a time when, if hon. gentlemen on this side of the House engaged in any lengthy discussion, they would only be aiding my hon. friend in what I thought was an obstruction to the important business which this House was called upon to deal with. In my department there are public works of great importance, the carrying on of which is delayed by reason of our not getting the Supplies. There are thousands of labouring men throughout this country from the Atlantic to the Pacific-

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Order.

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

Just allow me one word. Mr. Speaker,-and therefore I thought that I ought not to be a party to wasting one minute of the time of this House under such circumstances.

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CON

George Taylor (Whip of the Conservative Party (1867-1942))

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. TAYLOR.

What are you doing now?

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INQUIRIES FOR RETURNS.

CON

Alfred Alexander Lefurgey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LEFURGEY.

I would like to call the attention of the hon. Minister of Public Works to a return which I asked for on January 29, with regard to the public expenditures in Prince county, r. E. I. It would not take very much trouble to make up that return, but it is not down yet.

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June 5, 1908