May 19, 1908

LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. PUGSLEY.

I am under the impression that return was brought down. When was it called for ?

Topic:   INQUIRY FOR RETURNS.
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CON
LIB
CON

Alfred Alexander Lefurgey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LEFURGEY.

When may we expect the return moved for early in the session in reference to the expenditure in Prince Edward Island?

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Hon. WM. PUGSLEY (Minister of Public Works).

I think that return is nearly ready; probably in a day or two.

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CON

Haughton Lennox

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LENNOX.

Yesterday the Minister of the Interior promised that he would tell us to-day when the order in council with reference to immigration would be laid on the table.

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LIB

Frank Oliver (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Hon. FRANK OLIVER (Minister of the Interior).

It escaped my memory; I promise to give the information to-morrow.

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CON

Alfred Alexander Lefurgey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LEFURGEY.

What steps, If any, have been taken by the government to establish telegraphic communication between Prince Edward Island and the mainland, and what progress has been made in repairing the cable between the capes. I

have numerous complaints from the island that business is tied up and that great inconvenience is occasioned for want of telegraphic communication. I understand the Marconi system is working between the island and Pictou.

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LIB

William Pugsley (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Hon. WM. PUGSLEY.

I am afraid my hon. friend does not receive the latest news from his native province. I received a telegram yesterday stating that with the assistance of the steamer ' Stanley' the cable had been repaired and was in operation.

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SUPPLY-SASKATCHEWAN VALLEY

LAND COMPANY-TIMBER LEASES.

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Hon. W. S.@

FIELDING moved that the House go into Committee of Supply.

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LIB

John Gillanders Turriff

Liberal

Mr. J. G. TURRIFF (East Assiniboia).

There is a matter on which I want to speak before the House goes into Committee of Supply. My attention has been called to an article in the Halifax ' Evening Mail ' containing a report of a speech delivered on the 18th of April last by the hon. member for St. Antoine, Montreal (Mr. Ames). Among other statements that are pretty wide of the mark there is one that is particularly so. The article refers to the Saskatchewan Valley Land Company.

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CON

William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT.

Hear, hear.

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LIB

John Gillanders Turriff

Liberal

Mr. TURRIFF.

You won't say hear, hear, so much when I am through. I will read the article so as not to do the hon. gentleman any injustice and in order that he may have an opportunity of correcting it.

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CON

Herbert Brown Ames

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. AMES.

What is the paper ?

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LIB

John Gillanders Turriff

Liberal

Mr. TURRIFF.

The Halifax 'Evening Mail ' of April 20 last. The article after referring to one of the planks of the liberal platform is as follows :

We contend that this promise also has been completely shattered. Nowhere is this more clearly demonstrated than in that deal known as the Saskatchewan Valley Company concession. In the middle west, between Regina and Prince Albert, there lav a stretch of country which did not receive early settlement. It was regarded by some as semi-arid, but Dominion Colonization Agent Bpeers, one of the best authorities in the west in his time, believed and said that this belt could support a thriving agricultural population. He rep-ported his belief to the government and requested that he be given an opportunity to establish an experimental farm to show what could be done with the land. At that time Mr. Turriff was Deputy Minister of the Interior. He appears to have turned a deaf ear to Mr. Speers' request. But Mr. Turriff had a brother-in-law by the name of Adamson (they both have since become members of parliament). Mr. Adamson formed a syndicate for the purpose of acquiring land in the Saskatchewan valley. First of all the syndicate purchased from the Qu'Appelie,

Long Lake and Saskatchewan Railway their rivht to select 800,000 acres of land.

Then what follows is what I particularly wish to draw the attention of the House to; and as it is printed in large type I would judge that it is an exact report of what the hon. gentleman said.

Now so long as the government had been dealing with it, the railway company had been compelled to select its lands within a limited area north of Regina, but, no sooner had Mr. Adamson and his friends purchased the railway's right, than the area of selection was vastly enlarged so that it became no longer difficult to find enough good land to satisfy the grant. This kind of treatment by the government increased the value of the railway grant enormously.

Now Mr. Speaker, I want to say that that statement from the first to the last in every shape, form, and manner is absolutely false. There is not one word of truth in it from the first word to the last word. I do not want to do the hon. member (Mr. Ames) any injustice, but he sat in this House when he heard the statement made clearly that instead of increasing the area it had been largely reduced, after Osier, Hammond and Nanton had sold their railway grant to the Saskatchewan Valley Land Company. I expect he will try and make out, from the fact that the order in council was passed in August granting 1,700,000 acres out of which they might select, that the land grant was increased; but that very order in council itself-if he is depending on that- points out that the large areas that had previously to this been set aside for the railway company represented by Osier, Hammond and Nanton-the Mr. Osier of that firm is Mr. E. B. Osier, member for West Toronto-that order in council pointed out that these large blocks set apart for this railway company from which to select its lauds, had been withdrawn. Now in order that there should be no more misrepresentation in any respect with reference to this land grant at all events, I purpose placing before the House to-day the exact facts of the case so that the members of this House and the people of this country will be able to understand how little dependence may be placed on statements emanating from the source that statement emanated from.

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CON

George Taylor (Whip of the Conservative Party (1867-1942))

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. TAYLOR.

Before the hon. gentleman proceds I would like to ask him a question. I understood him to say there was not one word of truth from start to finish in the article he read.

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LIB

John Gillanders Turriff

Liberal

Mr. TURRIFF.

That is what I said.

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CON

George Taylor (Whip of the Conservative Party (1867-1942))

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. TAYLOR.

I would like to ask m.v hon. friend if Mr. Adamson, M.P., is not a brother-in-law of his?

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May 19, 1908