May 14, 1908

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Order, order.

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Mr. S. J.@

JACKSON, (reading) :

-and which brands him as a falsifier-

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Order.

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Robert Franklin Sutherland (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

That statement must be withdrawn.

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Take it back.

-and one who has no respect for truth.

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LIB
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Some hon. MEMBERS

Order.

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Robert Franklin Sutherland (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

The statement must be unreservedly withdrawn.

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Samuel Jacob Jackson

Liberal

Mr. S. J. JACKSON.

As far as I have power I withdraw it.

And for the reputation of his colleagues in the House I would ask you as a favour, if you feel justified in doing it, to rise in the House on a question of privilege-

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

I wish your ruling as to whether an hon. member of this House can bring a letter from another who is Outside the House making a charge against another member of the House, but which does not affect himself. If I understand correctly an hon. member, as a question of privilege, can only bring up something that affects himself, not that affects some other person who is not here. I wish your ruling.

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Mr. S. .T. JACKSON@

I asked the permission of the House to read the letter and was given it; that matter is settled, and I was just beginning

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George Eulas Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER.

The House did not know what the letter was.

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Robert Franklin Sutherland (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

A question of privilege, of course, is something affecting the standing of a member as a member of the House, and I am not at all clear that one member may not take up a question of privilege dealing with another member. Just at the moment, my own idea would be that that could be done, but in so far as the letter goes beyond what a member would himself be allowed to state in this House, it will be checked by me as it proceeds.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

I wish to raise another point of order. It is not proper for a member of this House to bring a letter from another person, whether a member or not, which contains expressions that he knows to be absolutely against the order and decorum of this House and proceed to read them, and as he is called to order in respect to one expression withdraw it and say there is worse coming later on and proceed, time after time, to insult the order and decorum of this House by improper and injurious expressions respecting another member. I have a great deal of doubt whether a question of privilege can be delegated from one member to another, but putting that aside for the moment, it seems to me the other point is plain if decorum is to be observed in this House.

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Samuel Jacob Jackson

Liberal

Mr. S. J. JACKSON.

I would say regarding Mr. Speaker's decision that the hon. member for North Toronto should qualify

the expression that he made use of yesterday-

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Order.

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Robert Franklin Sutherland (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

If the hon. gentleman (Mr. Jackson) speaks to the point of order he is within his right, but he cannot discuss some other matter until that is disposed of.

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Order.

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May 14, 1908