June 21, 1905

QUESTIONS.

CLASSIFICATION OF DAIRY PRODUCTS FOR EXPORTATION.

LIB

Mr. DESJARDINS asked :

Liberal

1. Has the government received from any dairy association a request for the classification of dairy products, for exportation ?

2. If not, is it the intention of the government to bring in, during this session or the next session, a Bill for the obligatory classification of dairy products, and of butter and cheese especially ?

3. Will the government institute a classification of three kinds instead of two ?

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LIB

Hon. SYDNEY FISHER (Minister of Agriculture) : (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

1. No.

2. No.

3. At a conference of the dairy instructors and experts held under the auspices of the dairying division of the Department of Agriculture at Ottawa, in November of 1903, the following resolution in favour of three grades of butter and cheese was passed :

Whereas cheese and butter are now almost universally classed as ' finest * and * under finest ' when purchased from the factories, making practically only two grades, be it .resolved that it would tend to improve the quality of both products if there were at least three grades recognized.

Since then Mr. Ruddick, Dairy Commls- * sioner, has devoted a great deal of time to this matter, and quite recently has formulated a new classification and standards of quality to - be observed by the official referee of butter and cheese at Montreal in giving his certificates as to the quality of cheese aud creamery butter which he is asked to examine. This new classification embraces three grades for cheese and three grades for creamery butter, namely, 1st grade, 2nd grade and 3rd grade. The Dairy Commissioner has no power to enforce this new clasification, except in so far as it applies to the work of the official referee ; but it has already been adopted by a number of the cheese and butter boards ; and it is hoped that in time all the selling of

cheese and butter will be done on the basis of this classification.

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BONUS FOR FARMER IMMIGRANTS.

CON

Frederick Debartzch Monk

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MONK asked :

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1. Does the government pay any bonus for farmer immigrants to this country ?

2. To whom is said bonus paid, and what is the amount paid ?

3. How much has been paid under the above head during the past year ?

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LIB

Hon. FRANK OLIVER (Minister of the Interior) : (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

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LIB

INDIAN RESERVES AT DONOASTER, COUNTY OF TERREBONNE.


Mr. DESJARDINS-by Mr. Demers-asked : 1. Is it the intention of the government to abolish the Indian reserve at Doncaster, in the county of Terrebonne ? 2. If so, will the government, before long, for the purchase of the said reserve, enter into correspondence with the different chiefs of the Indian tribes, who are the owners of those lands ?


LIB

Hon. FRANK OLIVER (Minister of the Interior) : (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

1. No. The government cannot abolish the reserve without the consent of the Indians, who have declined to surrender.

2. Covered by answer to first question.

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Subtopic:   INDIAN RESERVES AT DONOASTER, COUNTY OF TERREBONNE.
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PERSONAL EXPLANATION.

LIB

David Wesley Bole

Liberal

Mr. D. W. BOLE (Winnipeg).

Mr. Speaker, before the Orders of the Day are called, I would like to correct a statement made by the hon. member for North Toronto (Mr. Foster) on Monday last. I regret that the hon. gentleman is not in his place ; hut. as l am leaving the city to-day. I shall not have another opportunity of making my statement. I would also like to say that I was present when the hon. gentleman (Mr. Foster) was delivering his speech, but did not put tbe interpretation on bis words that I find in ' Hansard.' I refer to ' Hansard,' page 7932 :

Mr. Chaffey, on April 15, was determined to have his rights, and charged fraud and worse, but on the 26th Mr. Bole intervened and asked that proceedings be stayed until he could come to Ottawa. He then, being in Winnipeg on May 22, after negotiations and correspondence, brings down an assignment of all of Chaffey s rights, claims and interest to Macdonald.

I wish to say that I brought no assignment ; I entered into no negotiations whatever with regard to a settlement between the parties, and had nothing to do with a settlement between the parties. As the minister has promised an investigation, I will Yot say anything with regard to the merits of the case.

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CONDITION OF COMMONS CHAMBER.

CON

George Taylor (Chief Opposition Whip; Whip of the Conservative Party (1867-1942))

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GEORGE TAYLOR (Leeds).

I would like to ask the Acting Minister of Public Works if it is not possible to get some more fresh air into this chamber. I see that the temperature here is about 75. In rooms 16 and 6 it is about 65 degrees or 10 degrees more here than in any other room in the House. It ought to be possible to take off sections of these windows and let them remain that way. In any event some plan should be acted upon in order to get more fresh air into this chamber for at present the heat is simply unendurable.

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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

I will call the attention of the minister to my hon. friend's sugges-

tion. He will be here in a day or two, and then everything will be right.

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MONTREAL, HIGHLAND CADET CORPS.

CON

Frederick Debartzch Monk

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. P. D. MONK (Jacques Cartier).

I would like to ask my bon. friend the Minister of Militia if he intends doing anything for the Highland Cadet corps of Montreal. The matter calls for no discussion, but 1 shall read to the House a portion of a letter sent to me in connection with this matter :

Now the militia estimates are before the House, I think it advisable to draw your attention to the fact that that fine little corps the Highland Cadets of this city are likely to disband, through want of support and encouragement. Allow me to give you a brief outline of their career, in as few words as possible, for your information :

(al The corps was organized in 1389 by Major Fred. Lydon-then and for some years afterwards adjutant of the 5th Royal Scots-under whom they have ever since been and are to-day.

(b) They hold the Duke of Connaught's flag, having won it on June 5th, 1897, in competition with the Mount St. Louis Cadet corps.

(e) They have never had government assistance, and their work, as you can well understand has been uphill work in every sense of the word, and X think Major Lydon deserves the highest credit for keeping the corps up to the great efficiency it is in to-day in face of strong obstacles.

(d) The corps has at various times been on a visit, at its own expense, to Ottawa, Kingston, Toronto, Niagara Falls, Ogdensburg, New York, Portland, Maine, and other places.

(e) I myself, representing the Montreal ' Herald ' as special correspondent, accompanied them to Portland, Maine, in 1903, and can hear testimony to their great efficiency and good behaviour there and to the grand reception given them during their three days stay in that city.

(f) They have been inspected by various Governor Generals, also by His Royal Highness the Duke of Connaught, from whom they got great praise, as well as by His Royal Highness the Prince of Wales, when here as Duke of Cornwall, &c., to whom they acted as a guard of honour.

In face of all this and the fact that this little corps has supplied upwards of 600 recruits in all to city corps, besides a large number-altogether out of proportion to the size of the corps-to the South African campaign a few years back, Major Lydon has expended some $2,000 out of his own pocket to keep up his corps. Is this right let me ask you ? Besides they have had private subscriptions, which alone have helped to partially sustain the corps, from Lord Strath-cona, the late Colin McArthur and others. Now they contemplate a trip to New York city on 30th June to spend Dominion Day and 4th of July, and go in their shabby uniforms, and upon their return will disband at once unless they get some assistance from government or elsewhere, and as you are a Montrealer and must know the corps, that must plead for me in asking you to get a promise from the Minister of Militia in the House that something will be done-and done quickly-to keep up and help this fine little corps to keep alive. It would be a shame and disgrace should they be allowed to die through want of the necessary assistance. In a speech at the opening of the headquarters

of the First Cadet Battalion of the Royal Fusiliers last week, the Prince of Wales stated :

That during his visit to the colonies he found the cadet movement further advanced than in this country (England). He favoured it, not with a view of militarizing the population, but to give training, discipline and to make those who took part in it of use should their services ever be needed.

Lord Roberts on Empire Day made a speech in w'hich he said :

I am perfectly satisfied that it is essential for this country (England) that every able-bodied man should be able to use a rifle. If you would teach men how to shoot, you must begin with the boys. For that reason we want rifle clubs in all the schools, and assistance can be given to the schools by neighbouring rifle clubs allowing them the use of their ranges.

I am sure two such high authorities are sufficient to make the government decide to sustain this grand little corps, the Highland Cadets, and I am sure your attention having been drawn to the state of coma they are in, I can, as an old militia officer of many years standing, claim your all-powerful help in striving to get the necessary help for this corps.

It is unnecessary for me to add anything to this communication except to say that 1 cordially trust my hon. friend the Minister of Militia will see that the request is given his most favourable attention.

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LIB

Frederick William Borden (Minister of Militia and Defence)

Liberal

Sir FREDERICK BORDEN.

In reply I may say that this matter has already been brought to my attention, and that I have had some correspondence with citizens of Montreal and particularly Major Lydon himself with regard to it. Not long ago the secretary of the department wrote a letter in which he said :

The minister regrets he is unable to consider the claims of the Highland Cadeit corps for assistance, apart from the claims of other cadet corps. The whole question of assistance will be considered by the minister and the Militia Council at an early date.

In the Militia Act of' last year there are these clauses referring to cadet corps :

Section 65. The minister may-

(a) Authorize boys over 12 years of age, who are attending school, to be formed into school cadet corps ;

(b) Authorize boys over 14 years of age and under 18 years of age, to he formed into senior cadet corps ;

(c) Authorize senior cadet corps, or any portion thereof, to be attached to any portion of the active militia for the purposes of drill and training.

Section 66. All cadet corps shall be subject to the authority and under the orders of the dis * trict officer commanding.

Section 67. Cadet corps shall be drilled and trained as prescribed, and may be furnished with arms, ammunition and equipment, under conditions prescribed.

So that the powers of the department are limited under the Act, and if any special treatment is to be accorded to the cadets mentioned it would be necessary to take a special vote. It would be more convenient to thresh out this question when tne militia estimates are up, and I shall then have a

statement to make with reference to it. I may say however that the department recognizes the very valuable work which this and other cadet corps have done for the militia in Canada.

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L-C

Andrew B. Ingram

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. INGRAM.

Would the hon. minister give us then the amount of ammunition supplied the different cadet corps as well ?

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June 21, 1905