June 19, 1905

LIB

Frank Oliver (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

The work is in progress. Some of the sheets have been completed.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

I have seen one or two of these sheets, but I do not understand the system or design. A map is made of a section, but not divided according to ordinary requirements, as into provinces and so on. I cannot see what the usefulness of it is unless the maps are completed in some way, and I have not been able to get any information as to when the whole will be completed, or even when a province or any particular section will be ready.

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Frank Oliver (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

As I understand, the plans were entered upon some time ago. The country is divided up into sections, and for each section one of these standard maps is made. By using these separate sheets the map of any district can be made up. A map of the whole country upon the scale chosen would be useless, as it would be too large to be displayed, but maps of portions of the country can be made up by using these sections.

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yjr. SPROULE. But what I point out is that the work is not completed, nor are we told when it will he completed, or when any portion of it will be completed. And the maps of sections seem to be made without any relation to each other. There should be some design in the matter, and it should be known when the work will probably be completed either wholly or in certain parts.


LIB

Frank Oliver (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

' There is a uniform design and the parts are being brought out in regard to such portions of the country that happen to be at the moment the most interesting. And, when complete, that part can be fitted in with the other parts whenever they are ready.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

At what age of the world's history will it be completed ?

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Frank Oliver (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

That will depend on the generosity of iiarliament in providing money.

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LIB

Frank Oliver (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

The geographical staff of the Interior Department, and they are doing it gradually according to their capacity. To order the completion of such an immense map in a short time would involve a much larger expenditure, possibly, than parliament would feel inclined to authorize. Besides, it might not be possible to find the necessary number of men with the particular qualifications required. .

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George Taylor (Chief Opposition Whip; Whip of the Conservative Party (1867-1942))

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. TAYLOR.

This seems to be simply to find employment for an unnecessarily large staff.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

But the work should not be carried on in a merely aimless desultory fashion and with no idea when it is to be completed. This seems a merely childish arrangement from a business standpoint. For instance there is a map of part of the oil district-hut only a part. When will the rest be completed ? I tried to get that information, and could not learn whether it would he completed next year, or ten years hence or ever. Yet we are asked to vote money for this service. It seems like frittering away money.

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LIB

Frank Oliver (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

I cannot give the information as to when it is expected to finish the map, but I can give information which will partly answer the hon. gentleman's question. Up to a few years ago the mapping of the Domiuon proceeded in a desultory fashion. For instance the (peninsula of Ontario, the most densely populated part of the Dominion had not been mapped as it should have been. The section from Windsor to London has now been mapped and the sheet issued. The Hamilton sheet will he ready in a week or two and the Guelph sheet is more than half prepared. Another sheet will cover the portion of the peninsula west of the line from Oakville on Lake Ontario to ColUngwood on Georgian bay. Another sheet includes nearly the whole of

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New Brunswick. Another covers that portion of Ontario immediately east of the Manitoba boundary which will be traversed by the National Transcontinental Railway- this is practically finished. Another sheet covers that portion of Quebec from the Island of Orleans to Montreal, and Ontario and Quebec are well advanced.


CON

George Taylor (Chief Opposition Whip; Whip of the Conservative Party (1867-1942))

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. TAYLOR.

Where ate they printed?

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Frank Oliver (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

The drawings are made here, and the Toronto Lithographing Company prepare the copperplates and do the printing.

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CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

Have these been distributed to members ?

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Frank Oliver (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. OLIVER.

I am not aware what arrangement has been made for distribution. But I may say that those that are published, if they have not been already distributed to members, will be distributed.

Some resolutions reported.

Mr. FIELDING moved the adjournment of the House.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

What business will be taken up to-morrow ?

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June 19, 1905