June 15, 1905

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Joseph Gédéon Horace Bergeron

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BERGERON.

What has been the result in the way of conciliation ?

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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

Upwards of tliirtv-five of the largest strikes in Canada were settled during tlie operation of that Act.

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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

It has done a very excellent work, and this is recognized throughout the country.

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Richard Blain

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLAIN.

How is the 'Labour Gazette' sent out ? I understand, of course, that a large circulation is sent out to members of parliament, public libraries and so on, but I would like a detailed statement as to the circulation and at the same time I think the minister should clear up the statement of the member for East Elgin that to his own personal knowledge half a dozen rolled-up copies of this gazette were sent to private individuals during the recent election in London.

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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

The ' Gazette ' can be purchased at 3 cents a copy. It is possible for any one to order a dozen or half dozen or more copies. The same edition is being published as prevailed during the past year, there have been no extra copies issued nor any special circulation from the department. The total circulation is about

10,000 ; there are about 7,000 paid subscriptions and there are 3,000 copies for distribution to boards of trade, labour organizations, members of parliament and the public libraries and newspapers of the country.

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Andrew B. Ingram

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. INGRAM.

I know that there were r0iSt,0f lla.If a dozeu circulated in London, and the object evidently was to cover a point under discussion in that election, namely, Ii 6 Sen *a'30Ur difficulties that occurred on the Pere Marquette Railway at St. Thomas.

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Richard Blain

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BLAIN.

Perhaps the miuister would give a list of the correspondents of the ' Gazette ' and the manner of their selection and appointment.

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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

I fear my friend does not read the copies that are sent to him,

because this information is furnished in -each issue of the paper. They have a correspondent in every city, practically in Canada.

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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

By the Labour Bureau ; they are paid $100 a year. The names are contained in each number of the ' Gazette ' and are as follows :

Sydney, Nova Scotia, John Moffatt ; Halifax, Nova Scotia, F. W. Smith ; Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, J. F. Nash ; St. John, New Brunswick, W. H. Coates ; Quebec, E. Little and P. J. Jobin ; Sherbrooke, Quebec, H. Loggie ; Three Rivers, Quebec, John Ryan, sr.; St. Hyacinthe, Quebec, Victor Phaneuf ; Montreal, Quebec, Gustave Audet and T. J. Griffith ; Hull, Quebec, Rudolph Laferriere ; Ottawa, T. W. Quayle ; Kingston, Wm. Kelly ; Belleville. H. C. McDiarmid ; Peterborough, W. J. Johnston ; Toronto, Phillips Thompson ; Niagara Falls, Ernest Green; St. Catharines, James >

Wiley ; Hamilton, S. Landers ; Brantford, J. C. Watt ; Guelph, O. R. Wallace ; Berlin, Harry Peters ; Stratford, Joseph C. Carlin ; London, A. Woonton ; St. Thomas, A. Roberts ; Chatham, John R. Snell ; Windsor, D. Mitchell ; Sault St. Marie, Edward Barry ; Winnipeg, .T. A. Appleton ; Brandon, S. P. Springer ; Calgary, J. Gillespie ; Nelson, A. B. Docksteater ; New Westminster, J. George Hargreaves ; Victoria, British Columbia, J. D. McNiven ; Nanaimo, A. E. H. Spencer.

There are 38 correspondents In all.

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John Waterhouse Daniel

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DANIEL.

What are the qualifications required of the correspondents Are they members of labour organizations or working men or on what ground are they appointed ?

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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

They are men in the first place who have some literary ability who are capable of furnishing correspondence. They must of necessity be familiar with the industrial conditions prevailing in their districts ; they must also have the confidence of the employers as well as of the employees, that is to say those who are hiring and those who are hired.

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Andrew B. Ingram

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. INGRAM.

The minister seems to repudiate the idea that this is a partisan gazette. This department is partisan. I can state why these copies of the ' Gazette ' were circulated in London. We had an election there and the success of the Liberal candidate on that occasion largely hinged on bow tlie labour vote could be swung in his favour. I find here a letter from the Hon. Mr. Hyman to the Postmaster General and Minister of Labour calling his attention to the fact that a certain railway company in that district were importing aliens from the other side and urging upon the department the necessity of taking action and having these aliens removed. What did the government do then ? They employed a gentleman named Marks to go to St. Thomas and inquire into the difficulty brought about there by the importation of

these aliens. Then Judge Winchester was appointed as commissioner. He went there, made inquiries and through the inquiries and the report which he made these officers were ordered to leave the country, some of them within 24 hours, others within 7 days and others forthwith. The purchasing agent of the Pfire Marquette Railway left and went back to Detroit aud the next day we find Mr. Marks, Who is supposed to be a leading and shining light in the labour movement, employed by the government to assist the commissioner in his duties in investigating the difficulties in connection with these alien labourers.

Next we find this Mr. Marks, who is supposed to be a labour leader, wbo is supposed to be engaged by the ' Labour Gazette,' performing duties for labour, we find him charging the Conservative candidate with being an enemy to labour. Mr. Marks prepares an affidavit in which he charges that the Conservative candidate is an opponent of labour, and as a result of that charge the labour men of the city of London were requested not to vote for the Conservative candidate blit to vote for tbeir true friend, Mr. Hyman, who is said to be the friend of labour in the city of London. Now in an ordinary sense that is all right enough in a political campaign, and I have no objection to it ; but when this non-partisan Labour Department lends a hand and takes part in a political contest, then the sooner it ceases to declare itself non-partisan the better it will be for the labour interests of this country. That is the charge I make, and it is perfectly true. Why did Mr. Marks, in the ' Labour Gazette,' take part in the political discussion, take a partisan part in this election, charging the Conservative candidate with things of which it was positively proven he was not guilty ? If the Liberal party in the city of London chose to take that stand I have no fault to find, the Liberal party has a right to take whatever line in the contest they chose ; but wlieu the ' Labour Gazette and the Labour Department take a band in a political contest, then they must not come down to parliament and pretend to be a nonpartisan department.

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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

Mr. Marks is in no way connected with the ' Labour Gazette,' he is in no sense connected with the Department of Labour. Long before tlie recent election in London, in fact some time before the deatli of the late lamented Mr. Sutherland, Mr. Marks was appointed to hold a certain investigation. He is editor of the ' Industrial Banner,' is a very capable man. familiar with the industrial conditions, and because of bis qualifications lie was selected by the department to bold an investigation. Now that investigation was held before the vacancy in Loudon, or before a vacancy could be anticipated ?

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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

The hon. gentleman (Mr. Ingram) will not say that the investigation was not held previous to the election altogether.

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June 15, 1905