June 7, 1905

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CON

Alfred Augustus Stockton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STOCKTON.

I am glad be is taking it back because he evidently did not understand exactly the force of his argument.

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Napoléon Antoine Belcourt

Liberal

Mr. BELCOURT.

I do not take it back. What I said was that the majority whether Catholic or Protestant, have an absolute right in the Territories to establish schools of their own, in the words of the statute, as they may think fit.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

Might I ask the hon. gentleman this question ? He said if you had a thousand Catholics and five hundred Protestants and two thousand Mormons, Jews and others, the thousand Catholics would be the majority, and my hon. friend said distinctly yes. He would ignore the Mormons altogether.

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Napoléon Antoine Belcourt

Liberal

Mr. BELOOURT.

What I saiil was that if there were a thousand Catholics as against five hundred Protestants and two thousand Mormons the Catholics, as a matter of right, under section 11 of the Act of 1875. would hare the right to establish schools as they might think fit, and the tire hundred Protestants in the minority would be entitled to separate schools of their own. As regards the Jews and Mormons and others, they would have to go either to the Protestant or Catholic schools.

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Alfred Augustus Stockton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STOCKTON.

That is exactly what I said was the argument of my hon. friend, and ft follows that if there were neither Catholics nor Protestants in any locality, there would be no schools for the Jews or Doukhobors or Galicians or whatever else the population might be composed of.

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Alfred Augustus Stockton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STOCKTON.

Where are they going to get their education if they are not free to establsh schools of their own ? Surely that is not the interpretation of section 11 of the Act of 1875. Let Us read the English language according to the plain meaning of it. It says the majority of taxpayers. Is a Jew not a taxpayer and a citizen of this country just as much as a Protestant or a Roman Catholic ? Are you going to invite those people to this. country and then deny them the rights of citizenship, although they have to bear the burden of citizenship along with ourselves.

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CON

Alfred Augustus Stockton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STOCKTON.

It is not. You are going to put the burden of citizenship on these people, and yet you say that they have not the right to establish public schools in the district in which they live, if they happen to be the majority. That is what he said.

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Napoléon Antoine Belcourt

Liberal

Mr. BELOOURT.

No. They might establish a Protestant school or a Catholic school if they wanted to but not a school of their own.

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Mr. POSTER@

Where would the rights of conscience be then ?

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Alfred Augustus Stockton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STOCKTON.

For the sake of argument I will say yes they might, but it is not very likely they would under those circumstances. There is another point that I thank my hon. friend for.

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Armand Renaud La Vergne

Liberal

Mr. A. LAVERGNE.

Will the hon. gentleman allow me to put him a question ? Are not the Jews in Montreal under the Protestant Council of public instruction ?

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LIB
CON

Alfred Augustus Stockton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STOCKTON.

Then they are treated as citizens and better treated in the city of Montreal than my hon. friend would treat

them in the Northwest, when these new provinces are organized, according to his argument.

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Alfred Augustus Stockton

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STOCKTON.

I am glad my hon. friend sees the weakness of his argument in that respect and is willing to withdraw it. '

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June 7, 1905