June 5, 1905

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Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

This is a very old friend. Mr. Fabre is our commissioner at Paris, and has been since 1881, I believe. Everybody knows the Paris agency, especially those who have been in Paris. The duties performed by Mr. Fabre are well known. He was first appointed commissioner of immigration, but I do not know that he has been very successful in that work. In other respects, however, I think he has been a very efficient and useful officer. ' i

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Mr. FOSTER .@

Outside of immigration, what does he do from year to year ?

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Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

I do not know that he does anything except to keep the office open and furnish information to Canadians. The number of Canadians who now visit Europe is very large. As soon as they reach Paris they go to the commissioner's office for all the information they want, and they get it. They register their names, they have their mail sent there, and are able by means of this agency to keep track of their friends. I think Mr. Fabre renders valuable service in these respects.

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George Eulas Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER.

What portion of this is for Mr. Fabre's salary ?

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Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

I think the greater part is for salary, I could not say how much exactly. But there is the rent of the building to pay, repairs, furniture, &c.

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LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

He has no staff except a secretary, that he pays out of his own pocket.

Academy of Arts, $2,000.

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LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

No, this amount is given to the Royal Academy of Arts in this city. If my memory serves me well, this is a special vote given to a certain society in Ottawa to encourage art-the school of design, I thing.

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George Eulas Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER.

The; right hon, gentleman may be right, but I am inclined to think his recollection is not accurate.

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Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

Well, let it! stand. '

Miscellaneous-expenses of litigated matters between the Dominion of Canada and the provinces of Ontario and Quebec (payments on account of service rendered may be made to members of the Civil Service, notwithstanding anything in the Civil Service Act) $3,000.

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David Henderson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HENDERSON.

When is this likely to be brought to an end ?

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Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

I wish I knew. It has been there to my certain knowledge for ne'arly forty years. It has been gradually decreased every year, but ic has no# yet come to an absolute termination. If my hon. friend asks me when ic will come to an end, I am sorry to say I cannot give him much information, nor, I am afraid, very much hope.

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LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

I understand there is progress being made1.

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David Henderson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HENDERSON.

It is sometimes hinted that certain gentlemen keep that matter on foot all the time ; it brings in. a certain revenue yearly and it is a matter, of importance to those who are interested to keep it going along. I am not convinced that the difficulties are so great that the matter could not he brought to a termini ation. Surely now, nearly forty years after confederation we should pretty well under^ stand how financial matters rest between the Dominion and the old provinces of Ontario and Quebec. I really think the government should urge the commissioners to bring in a report covering a final settlement of these old questions. There may be some considerable interest involved, but a hint from the government might do much to bring the matter to an end.

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Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

I need hardly remind my hon. friend (Mr. Henderson) that the mills of the gods grind slow and the mills of the courts grind-

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LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

I will not say that, nor yet will I take issue with my hon. friend on that point. My hon. friend is aware that time and again points have been decided by the commissioners, Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

then taken to the courts, and there appealed to. the higher courts. Gradually all the questions have been settled-I believe only cne qu st'on n w remains for consideration and decision.

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David Henderson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HENDERSON.

Is that that bridge question in Quebec ? I understand that there was $37,000 involved in some question cdncer'ning a bridge-I think it was over the Yam a ska river. It seems a pity to keep this whole question open on that account. It would he better to pay for the bridge and let the matter be wiound up.

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