May 26, 1905

LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

We cannot deny him the privilege of praying.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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CON

William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT.

The department knew two months ago that he was the lowest tenderer and yet the department have not even notified him and the file will not bear it out to-day that his cheque will not be returned and that he will have to go on with this work.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

There is no need of telling him that his cheque will not be returned.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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CON

William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT.

No, but somebody in the department tells the hon. member for North Simcoe (Mr. McCarthy) that the contract with Mr. Conroy is to be at an end and that the contract is to be given to Battle Brothers for $30,000 or $5,000 higher than the figure of the other man. We will await and my informant will await with interest to see whether this work is given to Battle Brothers and there will be no excuse for not calling for tenders again if the department intend to take the work away from Mr. Conroy who is a political friend of theirs and give him back his cheque for $4,000. I understand that Mr. Battle cuts a very small figure. You cannot take up a little local paper published in any part of the province of Ontario with a circulation of 200 or 300 that does not contain an advertisement calling for tenders for something. This very paper has an advertisement calling for tenders for supplies for Kingston penitentiary, as if anybody in Collingwood would be supplying Kingston penitentiary.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

They only send inmates.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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CON

William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT.

That is rather hard on Collingwood. I am going to await with interest, and I think the people of Collingwood and my informant and others who think they smell a rat, will await with interest to see what is going to be done, whether Mr. Conroy is going to be held to his contract, his cheque retained and he obliged to go on with the work, or whether it is to be handed over to Battle Brothers, and whether they are to have a $30,000 contract without new tenders being called for. If they get that extra $5,000 it will be a handsome profit on a comparatively small work. Battle Brothers are not unknown to the department. I think that one of the brothers has been a candidate in one of these ridings in either a local or Dominion election-I do not at this moment remember which. But, they are very prominent Liberals in that district, and if Mr. Conroy is to have this cheque returned by the department instead of being obliged to forfeit his cheque, and if Mr. McCarthy sends word to the newspaper-for presumably it must be from him-that they are done with Mr. Conroy and are now going to deal with Mr. Battle at the advanced rate, I think we should keep our eye on this and see what the outcome will be.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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Mr FIELDING.

We shall be glad to have my hon. friend keep his eye on the affair, but I think it is a pity that he did not wait until there was some substantial ground to bring the matter up. I am at a loss to find what his ground for complaint is. What is wrong ?

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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CON

William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT.

You were most anxious to show your good faith with the people of Collingwood eight months ago to show them

that you intended to build a dock there- that was during the election-and I think the government did intend to build the dock. Here to-day what are you doing ? You have had the cheque of this gentleman for two months and you are not forcing him on with his contract, but are holding the cheque in abeyance and your representative Mr. McCarthy comes up there presumably and through the local Liberal paper makes the announcement that the man who put in the low tender is to be released from his contract. That means that his cheque will be returned and the other men who had the higher tender by $5,000 are given the contract and that they need not worry at all that the work is to go on at once. We will wait and see whether the work does go on, whether the Battles are given the contract at $5,000 advance without any tender or competition and whether a return is made of the $4,000 to Mr. Conroy.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

I am still at a loss to find out what is my hon. friend's grievance ; every part of this business is absolutely straight and businesslike.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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CON

William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT.

If the hon. member for North Simcoe were here-

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must absolutely be some corruption somewhere. What is the fact ? The lowest tender happened to be by thousands of dollars in excess of the engineer's estimate and therefore the minister says : I shall not accept that. Anything wrong about that ? Anything corrupt about that ? That suspicion is set at rest at once by that very simple explanation, of what my hon. friend would try to make out is some dreadfully bad part of the transaction.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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CON

William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT.

It is the second set of tenders I referred to.

Mi'- FIELDING. My hon. friend dealt v ith the first. He said it was very strange that a contract was not awarded on the first and gives as a reason that the contract would not go to the right man. We pass from the first and come to the second.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

What was the amount of the lowest tender in the first lot ?

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

I think perhaps the leader of the opposition will agree with me that where the transaction is not yet completed and the contracts signed, it would not be prudent to quote the tenders.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

I am not dealing with the hon. member for North Simcoe.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

Then my hon. friend should not make any reference to them.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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CON

William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT.

Once before you were calling for tenders, and now you have accepted the lowest tender and held it for two months, you do not force the contract- or to go on or make him estreat his cheque. That is the complaint of the people of Collingwood to-day, that you are playing fast and loose with them and there is a suspicion there that you are going to let the lowest tenderer drop out.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

Suspicion haunts the guilty mind ; so says a famous philosopher.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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CON

George Eulas Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER.

Who says that ? Give your authority.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

I made a reference but I did not give the figures ; I have not given the amount of any tender.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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CON

William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT.

The minister must remember this that he is very extravagant often in his speech and what may be only a trifling sum may to him be thousands and thousands.

Topic:   SUPPLY-HALF-BREED SCRIP.
Subtopic:   TENDERS FOR PUBLIC DOCK AT COLLINGWOOD.
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May 26, 1905