May 26, 1905

LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

I will bring it down with pleasure.

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Joseph Gédéon Horace Bergeron

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BERGERON.

Will my hon. friend please let us know how he is satisfied with last winter's experiments with the ' Montcalm ' ?

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

I can only give that information generally, and from memory. We are perfectly satisfied with the boat's work. It is acknowledged by every one connected with navigation that, with the severe winter, had it not been for the ' Montcalm ' breaking the ice at Cape Rouge from early winter, the ice would not had left the channel until the 15th of May, on account of the vast accumulation. It will be . remembered that the ice in the gulf delayed steamers for five or six days. The ice was so thick and solid that, had it not been for the work of the ' Montcalm,' the route would not have been cleared until the 10th of-May. The ' Montcalm ' kept the river clear of ice from Cape Rouge for two or three miles to the piers of the Quebec bridge. It did not prevent the ice from forming at certain points where the river is very narrow, but the keeping of the channel clear alone helped the departure of the ice so much that the ' Montcalm ' herself was nearly caught in the spring movement. No accident took place, because the ice-shove was ahead of the steamer and she was following it. The

boat has proved very solid and very effective in every way. I went myself with some of imy officers and some people connected with navigation at different times to be present at the work while the - steamer was breaking her way through the ice. The last time I was there there were several members of parliament from the west in the party, and they were really astonished at the work done. The boat broke a channel in ice that was twenty-five or thirty feet thick

ice that was stuck to the bottom in some places. I would not say that if X had not witnesses, members of parliament, who saw it as I did. The boat would break as much as 600 feet in a day over a width of 200 feet. Of course, this work was done at a time when the ebb-tide would carry down the ice. The effectiveness of the boat was interfered with by one thing that could not have well been foreseen. She was brought out from Scotland late in the season, arriving in Quebec about the beginning of December. ' She had two sets of blades. That is, she had two propellers, and she had six extra blades for her propellers. These blades were broken at different times, and, although we ordered a new set, only one set arrived in time to enable her to continue effective work. The day when the members of parliament were aboard she had only one complete propeller, the other one having only one blade. But even with this disadvantage she did the work I have mentioned. After she had got through this work she was ordered to go down and meet the steamers that were supposed to be kept back by the ice. She went down almost to Newfoundland, and there came face to face with an immense field of ice about ten miles long. The ' Montcalm ' is fitted with the Marconi system. But, unfortunately, the boats that first arrived were not fitted wih the system, so she could not communicate with and could not give the help they expected from her. Therefore, she returned to Quebec. We wished also to send her down to Seven Islands, in the Gulf of St. Lawrence, to make ail experiment in maintaing navigation during the winter, but, owing to the circumstances I have explained, this could not be done. The other ice-breaker, the ' Champlain,' though a very much smaller boat, kept navigation open on the ferry route between Murray bay and St. Denis wharf throughout the winter, except for a few hours during particularly stormy days. Altogether our experiments show that navigation throughout the winter is perfectly feasible, even under the most unfavourable circumstances, because last winter was, as everybody knows, a season of extreme severity.

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Joseph Gédéon Horace Bergeron

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BERGERON.

The ' Montcalm ' was in service all winter ?

Mr. PREiFONTAINE. Yes, except for a few days when her propellers were being fitted with new blades.

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CON

Joseph Gédéon Horace Bergeron

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BERGERON.

How many has she in her crew, and what is the expense per day ?

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

The crew numbers forty, and the expense is $150 a day.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

She is on the lighthouse service in the gulf.

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CON

Joseph Gédéon Horace Bergeron

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BERGERON.

And the minister intends to continue this steamer in this icebreaking service next winter ?

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

Yes.

Steamboat inspection-to pay the widow of Douglas Stevens, late inspector of Dominion steamers and fog alarms, a gratuity equal to two months' salary, $250.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

I must ask that this item be dropped, to be renewed in the supplementary estimates for 1905-6. There has been a mistake in a calculation, the amount necessary to cover two months' salary of this late officer being $283. The item will be struck out in the meantime.

Marine hospitals-further grant to St. John, New Brunswick, Fernhill cemetery, to provide for the putting in order and for the perpetual care of the seamen's lots, $1,000.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

Parliament voted $1,000 for a lot to be known as the 'Seamen's lot ' in Fernhill cemetery. It is used for the interment of seamen dying in the marine hospital. The grant was insufficient, and the cemetery is in bad condition. We have made an arrangement with the authorities of the cemetery that this $1,000 will be paid, and they will for ever maintain the cemetery in good condition.

Post Office-compassionate allowance for the family of the late Mr. Patrick Callery, letter-carrier at Montreal, who was accidentally killed w'hilst on duty, January 25, 1905, the amount to be applied for the benefit of his widow and children in such manner as may be determined by the Treasury Board, $1,000.

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Hon. S@

Patrick Callery, letter-carrier at Montreal, was knocked down and run over by a horse and sleigh while returning home after work. The injuries he received resulted in his death about half an hour after the accident. Mr. Callery was appointed letter-carrier on the 19th of May, 1873. At the time of his death he was in his 61st year, and had been in the service 31 years and 7 months. During that time he was a contributor to the Civil Service Superannuation Fund. He left a widow and two children.

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CON

Joseph Gédéon Horace Bergeron

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BERGERON.

I know that case well, and I think the government never asked

for a more commendable vote. He was an old servant and a very faithful one.

To complete payments for mail service for year ending June 30, 1905, $100,000.

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LIB

William Mulock (Minister of Labour; Postmaster General)

Liberal

Sir WILLIAM MULOCK.

About .$85,000 of this amount is for the ordinary land service, the increase being due to the general expansion of the service, the increased prices asked for nearly all contracts put up for tender. During the last calendar year 409 new post offices were opened, forty per cent of them in Manitoba, the Northwest Territories and British Columbia. Nearly all those new post offices necessitated new services. Of this amount $15,000 is required for railway mail service, the increase being due to the establishment of new services and greater frequency, placing postal cars on trains where baggage cars had been in use.

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CON

Joseph Gédéon Horace Bergeron

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BERGERON.

What was the amount of money voted in the main estimates last year ?

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William Mulock (Minister of Labour; Postmaster General)

Liberal

Sir WILLIAM MULOCK.

$2,561,700. We require about $100,000 more to complete the payments for the current year. It is entirely the same service, but we are expanding every day now.

To provide for the salary of A. W. Cairns, post office inspector, moved from Winnipeg to the Northwest Territories, at the rate of $2,000 a year from April 1, 1905, $500.

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William Mulock (Minister of Labour; Postmaster General)

Liberal

Sir WILLIAM MULOCK.

Mr. Cairns, who was assistant post office inspector at Winnipeg, has been appointed post office inspector in the Northwest Territories from the 1st of April last, at a salary of $2,000. That is the minimum salary of the appointment, and the amount of $500 is asked to provide for his salary for the balance of the current year. He has been in the service since March, 1882, and has been assistant post office inspector since the 1st of July, 1885.

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May 26, 1905