May 16, 1905

NORTHWEST TERRITORIES REPRESENTATION.


Hon. CHARLES FITZPATRICK (Minister of Justice) moved for leave to introduce a Bill (No. 156) to amend the Northwest Territories Representation Act. He said : I promised to introduce a Bill at the request of the hon. member for Calgary (Mr. M. S. McCarthy) to (amend the Representation Act. It is based practically upon the lines of the Bill introduced last year by Mr. Cas-grain, then member for Montmorency. In this Bill I have added a provision to cover a difficulty that the member for Calgary pointed out with respect to the question of the residence of a voter in the polling subdivision in which he is supposed to vote. Motion agreed to, and Bill read the first time.


VACANCY IN NORTH OXFORD.

LIB

Robert Franklin Sutherland (Speaker of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

Crown in Chancery to make out a new writ of election for the said electoral district.

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THE PORTFOLIO OF PUBLIC WORKS.

CON

George Eulas Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. GEO. E. FOSTER.

Yesterday the question was asked as to when the vacancy in the Public Works Department would be filled, and I think the minister who was in charge asked that that question be repeated to-day.

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Rt. H@

I see by the statement just made by His Honour the Speaker, that the seat of North Oxford is uow vacant; and the portfolio of Public Woi'ks is also vacant. I am not in a position to make any statement to-day, but I shall have pleasure in doing so at an early day.

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VETERANS OF 1S06 AND 1870.

CON

Frederick Debartzch Monk

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. F. D. MONK.

Before the Orders of the Day are proceeded with, I would like to ca'll the attention of my right hon. friend to a matter of some urgency, and that is the request that was made a few days ago by the veterans of 1866 and 1870 for a grant of land from the government in recognition of their services. As my right hon. friend is aware, and the matter has been brought to my notice, the provincial legislature of Quebec is going to prorogue very shortly, and many of those interested in the petition which was presented a few days ago to the government are anxious to ofotain some kind of answer from this government before that prorogation takes place, because upon that answer will largely depend the steps they intend to take with the government of Quebec. My right hon. friend will remember that when these gentlemen, who are deserving of the highest consideration, went before the Quebec government they were told by the provincial Prime Minister that their request would more properly be addressed to the federal government. Consequently, they are waiting with some anxiety for the answer of the government here in order that, before prorogation, they may, if necessary, bring the matter once more to the notice of the provincial government, and that the provincial government may, if necessary, obtain legislation for the purpose of satisfying the petitioners. 1 have received several letters in reference to this matter, and have been requested to call the attention of the government to the request of these claimants, and to ask for as prompt an answer as possible.

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Rt. H@

I think it is obvious to any one, and my hon. friend (Mr. Monk) will agree with me, that if the veterans of 1S66 and 1870 have a claim against anybody, it is the Dominion government, although I do not say that the veterans, from .their point of view, have not done well to address themselves to the provincial government. Mr. Mr. SPEAKER.

Gouin, the provincial premier, I do not think went further in his answer than to say that they should first of all address themselves to the Dominion government. This they have done, and the matter is now under consideration. But I must say, and my hon. friend will not be surprised, that up to this moment the government has had no time to take that matter in hand and give it the attention which it will require before we can come to a conclusion. The matter is under consideration, and without making any pledge, I will say that I will give an answer during the present session. When the answer will be given, I am sorry to say that I can give no indication to-day to my bon. friend, but certainly it will be given during the present session.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

I may add that this matter has been mentioned to me by some gentlemen* residing in the province of Ontario who were on military service in 1866 and, possibly, in 1870 ; and I would like to make on their behalf the same claim for federal aid that has been made by the hon. member for Jacques Cartier (Mr. Monk) for the veterans of the province of Quebec.

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THE DEFAULTING LAND AGENT, NIXON.

CON

George Eulas Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER.

I brought a matter to the attention of the Minister of the Interior six or seven days ago, one in regard to which it should not have taken him a very long time to furnish the information. It is a matter which is a little urgent and pressing, and I would like to call the attention of the First Minister to it. The new Minister of the Interior is not as punctual in getting in here at three o'clock as some of the older ministers, for instance, my hon. friend the Minister of Customs, and that is the only period when we can well refer to the matter without delaying proceedings. If the First Minister will mention it to him, I will bring the matter up to-morrow.

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LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

I have no objection. If the Minister of the Interior does not come in before the House rises to-day the hon. gentleman will have his answer, because it is ready.

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PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT IN THE NORTHWEST.


House again in committee on Bill (No. 69) to establish and provide for the government of the province of Alberta.-(Sir Wilfrid Laurier. On section 22, Nothing in this Act shall in any way prejudice or affect the rights of properties of the Hudson Bay Company acquired, held or existing under and by virtue of the conditions of the deed under which that company surrendered Rupert's Land to the Crown. Hon. CHARLES FITZPATRICK (Minister of Justice) moved that the following he substituted in lieu of section 22 : Nothing in this Act shall in any way prejudice or affect the rights or properties of the Hudson Bay Company as contained in the conditions under which that company surrendered Rupert's Land to the Crown, and all rights, privileges and properties conferred on the Canadian government by the said conditions, shall, in so far as they relate to matters within the legislative authority of the province, belong to and be vested in the government of the said province.


IND

William Findlay Maclean

Independent Conservative

Mr. W. F. MACLEAN.

I asked the hon. Minister of Justice last night why it was necessary to protect these rights. To my mind, if they have rights, they are protected by the original agreement and why should we go out of our way to protect these rights in this clause and especially in the clause succeeding ?

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LIB

Charles Fitzpatrick (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. FITZPATRICK.

My hon. friend (Mr. Maclean) is aware that when the imperial government acquired this property from the Hudson Bay Company they acquired it subject to certain conditions which are mentioned in the title. The property was vested in the Queen in the right of the imperial parliament, and was handed over to the Dominion government subject to the same conditions as those under which the property passed from the company. The only condition of the original surrender which this section is intended to cover is the condition repeated in section 11 of the Order in Council under which the property was banded over to the Dominion and which reads as follows :

The company is to be at liberty to carry on its trade without hindrance in its corporate capacity, and no exceptional tax is to be placed on the company's land, trade or servants, nor any import duties on goods introduced by them previous to the surrender of 1870.

That last question of the import duties has ceased to be of any effect. It was merely applicable to goods imported into the country previous to the surrender of 1870.

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IND

William Findlay Maclean

Independent Conservative

Mr. W. F. MACLEAN.

Are not these rights protected by the original agreement without any restatement in this Act ?

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LIB

Charles Fitzpatrick (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. FITZPATRICK.

That may be my hon. friend's view. I do not think it is the correct view and it was not the view taken at the time that Manitoba was admitted into the Dominion as a province. This provision is adopted from the Manitoba Act.

Section as amended, agreed to.

On section 23, .

The powers hereby granted to the said province shall be exercised subject to the provisions of section 16 of the contract set forth in the schedule to chapter 1 of the statutes

of 1881, being an Act respecting the Canadian Pacific Railway Company.

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May 16, 1905