May 2, 1905

CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

As my hon. friend is in a questioning mood I would like to put him a question. Does he mean that this parliament can decide any matter of that kind by assuming powers which it may be found eventually not to possess V

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LIB

Louis-Philippe Brodeur (Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. BRODEUR.

I will be in a position in a few moments to discuss that phase of the question.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

That is a v.ery pertinent point just now.

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LIB

Louis-Philippe Brodeur (Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. BRODEUR.

I am here to assert that I consider this parliament has the right. I cannot be certain whether the future will agree with me or not, but I assert here that this parliament has to-day the right to decide what the law should be with regard to separate schools in .the Northwest. I go further than my hon. friend does.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

The only difference is that I am not quite so cock sure as my hon. friend is.

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LIB

Louis-Philippe Brodeur (Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. BRODEUR.

Then I stand in a better position than does my hon. friend, and the government stands in a better position than he does because the government have decided as to its course while my hon. friend does not seem to be able to decide what is the meaning of Mr. BRODEUR.

his amendment. I may be mistaken, but X do say here that if under the amendment of the leader of the opposition, remedial legislation does not apply, then it is the most unjust proposition which has ever been brought before the parliament of this country. In view of the agreements which I have just quoted, in view of the agreement which was made in London in 1867, in view of the agreement which was made with regard to the schools in the Northwest in 3869, I say that we should be in a position now to declare whether we shall guarantee the rights and privileges which the minority should enjoy in this country ; that we should not leave it to the future to decide what shall be the position of the minority, but that we shall be brave enough to say to them : here is the law under which you shall live.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN.

May I ask my hon. friend one question. Does he attach importance to the remedial legislation which is provided for by subsection 4 ?

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LIB

Louis-Philippe Brodeur (Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. BRODEUR.

Certainly I attach a great deal of importance to it, and for the reason that if the legislature should establish separate schools in the Northwest Territories and if it should afterwards abolish these separate schools, then tins parliament would have the right to disallow that law as it should have the right to disallow a law so unjust.

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Hear, hear.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

Might I ask one more question ? Does he understand that the minority in Manitoba have their full rights to-day ?

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Hear, hear

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LIB

Louis-Philippe Brodeur (Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. BRODEUR.

I am not going to say-;

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Oh.

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Mr. R. L. BORDEN I.@

et us be brave.

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LIB

Louis-Philippe Brodeur (Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. BRODEUR.

We are not discussing the Manitoba Bill, we are discussing the Northwest Territories Bill and we find on this side of the House a party which stands for a definite position, and on .the other side we have a party which is divided against itself.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

Do I understand that my hon. friend declines to answer that very disconcerting question which I put just now ?

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LIB

Louis-Philippe Brodeur (Minister of Inland Revenue)

Liberal

Mr. BRODEUR.

I will be very glad to discuss that question some other day. X have been speaking now for an hour, occasionally interrupted as I have been, and X will be* very glad to discuss that question any time my hon. friend makes a motion, and which I trust will be in clearer language than the one he has now before the House.

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Hear. hear.

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Andrew B. Ingram

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. INGRAM.

I would like to point out to the hon. gentleman-

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Order.

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May 2, 1905