March 20, 1905

PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT IN THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES.


On the Orders of the Day being called,


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Rt. H@

I desire to inform the House that it is the intention of the government to proceed with the Autonomy Bill on Wednesday next as the first order. I may say to the House also that it is contemplated to introduce an amendment to section 16, which amendment will be placed in the hands of the clerk, I hope, before the adjournment of the House ; and before the adjournment I think we will be able to place on the table of the House the papers which were asked for the other day by the hon. the leader of the opposition.

Topic:   PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT IN THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES.
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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

Of course, it would be desirable, as I have pointed out to the right hon. gentleman, that these papers which are to be brought down, or have been brought down, should be printed, or put in some such form that they will be properly available to members of the House who desire to deal with them in the course of the debate.

Topic:   PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT IN THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES.
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THE BUDGET SPEECH.

CON

George Eulas Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. GEO. E. FOSTER.

Is there any announcement by the First Minister or the Minister of Finance as to the budget, or is that now to be indefinitely postponed ?

Topic:   THE BUDGET SPEECH.
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LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Hon. W. S. FIELDING (Minister of Finance).

I intimated to my hon. friend the other day that some days might elapse before we could make an announcement ; and in view of the business which is likely to come before the House, and which is of, perhaps, more immediate interest, I think we will have to postpone for a few days the announcement concerning the budget.

Topic:   THE BUDGET SPEECH.
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PRIVATE BILLS.

MOOSEJAW AND EDMONTON RAILWAY COMPANY.


House in committee on Bill (No. 20) to incorporate the Moosejaw and Edmonton Railway Company.-Mr. Scott.


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Mr. I@

The reason that this Bill stood was because I desired the hon. gentleman who has the Bill in charge (Mr. Scott) to explain why it was necessary to have a capitalization, if I remember correctly, of $2,000,000, and in addition to that the power to issue bonds upon the whole length of the road to the extent of $25,000 a mile. I would think that perhaps the bond issue would of itself be amply sufficient to build and equip the road-perhaps more than sufficient-but in addition to that we have authorized a capitalization of $2,000,000.

Mr. S'COTT. I may say, Mr. Chairman, that the application of the promoters called for a capitalization of only $1,000,000 and it was in the judgment of the standing committee on Railways and Canals that the capitalization was increased to $2,000,000. I have not the faintest objection to reducing that to $1,000,000.

Topic:   PRIVATE BILLS.
Subtopic:   MOOSEJAW AND EDMONTON RAILWAY COMPANY.
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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

What was the reason for increasing it? Perhaps the hon. gentleman who was present at the committee can give this committee some information as to that.

Topic:   PRIVATE BILLS.
Subtopic:   MOOSEJAW AND EDMONTON RAILWAY COMPANY.
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LIB

Charles Smith Hyman (Minister Without Portfolio)

Liberal

Mr. HYMAN.

It has been the usual custom of the committee in regard to roads of this character to make the capital stock in the neighbourhood of $10,000 a mile. It is necessary under a clause of the Railway Act to subscribe 15 per cent of the capital to make a start with the road. With a road of this character having a capital of $1,000,000 it would mean $150,000. but with $2,000,000, capital it would mean $300,000.

Topic:   PRIVATE BILLS.
Subtopic:   MOOSEJAW AND EDMONTON RAILWAY COMPANY.
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CON

George Eulas Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER.

What is the length of the road ?

Topic:   PRIVATE BILLS.
Subtopic:   MOOSEJAW AND EDMONTON RAILWAY COMPANY.
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LIB

Charles Smith Hyman (Minister Without Portfolio)

Liberal

Mr. HYMAN.

Aoout 400 miles. These matters have all been discussed from that

standpoint and it has been the custom to allow an issue of stock in the neighbourhood of $10,000 a mile.

Bill reported, read the third time and passed.

Topic:   PRIVATE BILLS.
Subtopic:   MOOSEJAW AND EDMONTON RAILWAY COMPANY.
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ONTARIO AND MINNESOTA POWER COMPANY.


House in committee on Bill (No. 86) respecting the Ontario and Minnesota Power Company, Limited.-Mr. Campbell. On section 9,


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Mr. POSTER@

Where does this Bill come from ?

Topic:   ONTARIO AND MINNESOTA POWER COMPANY.
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Charles Marcil (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER.

From the committee on Miscellaneous Private Bills.

Topic:   ONTARIO AND MINNESOTA POWER COMPANY.
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CON

George Eulas Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER.

It seems to me that we are getting no idea of the Bill at all. A comparatively small committee-not saying anything against the committee at all-takes the Bill up ; we do not know bow much time they give to its consideration, the Bill comes down to the House and we simply just hear the annotations at the sides of the clauses read. I do not think that is good legislation. I would like to ask my right lion, friend (Sir Wilfrid Laurier) if he thinks it is ?

Sir WILFRID LAURIER, Most of these Bills are purely formal and do not require much discussion. It may be, of course, that there are some Bills that are very important and something might slip through that requires consideration. But, as a rule these Bills are purely formal and require no very great consideration. If there is something that requires consideration in a Bill sometimes I agree with my hon. friend that it might slip through.

Topic:   ONTARIO AND MINNESOTA POWER COMPANY.
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March 20, 1905