March 1, 1905

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Angus Alexander McLean

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. A. A. McLEAN.

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

I am not in a position to say : I know it did not go over the Intercolonial Railway.

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT.

Was any received at either St. John or Halifax ?

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

I have said that from the 1st of July down to the present time this year we have not received any grain at the elevator at Halifax or St. John. I cannot make myself any more explicit.

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT.

Is there a staff at each elevator, and what is the cost of keeping it up ?

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

There are watchmen there, wTe do not keep a staff of men ; we only keep men when there is business and unfortunately, on account of the conditions prevailing this year, we could not accept the business and therefore could not do it through these elevators.

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT.

How much grain was exported by the Canadian Pacific from St. John ?

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

I cannot say.

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT.

I would think a matter of that kind would be of some interest to the minister or to the officers of his department.

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

That information is not in our possession ; we cannot get that. My hon. friend could possess himself of that information as readily as I.

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNET.T.

The department could easily find the sailings of the different ships during the season.

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

It is not all grain.

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT.

The quantity of grain could be arrived at pretty well.

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

I do not think the department is chargeable with any negligence for not having that information.

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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Haughton Lennox

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LENNOX.

I understand the minister to say that they could not carry this grain because of not having the proper equipment of freight cars. I also understood from remarks of the minister and of the hon. gentleman from Lanark (Mr. Haggart) who replied to him that a large amount of money is now required in order to properly equip the line. We also had a statement in the House to-night that we have been spending on capital account during the last seven or eight years, millions of money yearly, not only to keep it up to an efficient condition, but to place it in a more efficient condition than it was before. In 1903, in the matter of passenger cars, which we need not deal with at present, and in the matter of engines and freight cars, the Intercolonial was represented to be one of the best lines in Canada. In that year the Grand Trunk Railway had for every 100 miles of its

railway 775 freight ears, and the Intercolonial 774, a difference of one; and for every 100 miles the Grand Trunk had 22 locomotives and the Intercolonial 21. So that practically these two lines were upon the same basis as regards equipment for carrying freight. Since 1903, the Intercolonial has not been going back, but going forward, by leaps and bounds, in the matter of expenditure on capital account for equipment. Therefore it seems extraordinary that the minister should be in the humiliating jiosition to-night of having to admit that the Intercolonial is practically unable to compete for the carrying trade of the country by reason of not having the necessary means of transportation either in en gines or cars. Will the minister explain how that happens ?

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

I thought I did explain.

I said that in order to get that traffic the Grand Trunk complained of a very great shortage of ears and that the Canadian Pacific Railway was in an equally deplorable condition. I also said that the Grand Trunk required us to furnish cars to go on its lines to gather up the traffic that would go over the Intercolonial and that we were not in a position to do that.

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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Haughton Lennox

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LENNOX.

Will the minister state what equipment per mile or per 100 miles the Intercolonial should have in order to promptly handle the traffic which would legitimately come to it?

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

I am not in a position to state that.

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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Haughton Lennox

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LENNOX.

Then, how are we to deal with this question? The hon. gentleman is not in a position to handle the freight delivered at the elevators on his own line.

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT.

That was easy, because there was none.

Topic:   SUPPLY-INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY, ANNUAL STATEMENT.
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March 1, 1905