February 2, 1905

CON

William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT.

As the bon. Minister of Agriculture effected a change in the United State regulations, perhaps he may be able to effect a change in the English regulations. The hon. minister took credit all over the country for having done that, claiming that he alone and not the American government had been all powerful.

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LIB

Sydney Arthur Fisher (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. FISHER.

I shall be very happy if I can do so.

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FLOODS AT VERDUN, QUE.

CON

Frederick Debartzch Monk

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. F. D. MONK (Jacques Cartier) moved :

For copies of correspondence exchanged between parties in the town of Verdun, county of Jacques Cartier, and the Montreal Harbour Board, or the Department of Marine and Fisheries, respecting protection against floods at Verdun, along the shore of the St. Lawrence River.

He said : Mr. Speaker, the object of this motion is to obtain copies of letters which have been addressed by parties in the town of Verdun near Montreal either to the harbour board of Montreal or to the government in regard to protection against floods. I may mention for the information of the House, that the town of Verdun has extended probably with greater rapidity and has developed faster than any other suburb of Montreal during the past eight years. In 1890 there were but a few houses where the town of Verdun stands to-day. The number of people residing there was so small that it was not then deemed necessary to hold a political meeting during the elections ol' 1890. To-day the town has a voters' list, I think, of over 1,000 names, there are four polling subdivisions, the population is large, the number of houses has increased in an extraordinary ratio, the street cars from Montreal pass through tfie town, has electric light, water and drainage and the place is increasing every day. Last year the town suffered a very serious reverse in the shape of an inundation caused by the rising of the St. Lawrence river during the spring freshets. The water inundated the town partly by coming into the tail race of the Montreal waterworks and overflowing the banks of the tail race. The bank is larger on the side of the city of Montreal than on the western side, that is on the side of Verdun, and the water poured in there in a single night in great quantities. It also came in in the ordinary way from the St. Lawrence river overflowing the banks of the river. I may mention that the damage was very considerable indeed. The protection afforded in the vicinity of Montreal against floods only extends into a part of

the town of Verdun, It would be necessary, to make that protection absolutely effective, to extend the wall higher up along the river St. Lawrence for some distance along the frontage of the town of Verdun. I saw by the papers that letters had been addressed to the harbour commissioners asking them to provide protection against a recurrence of such a disastrous accident as happened last year. I think it would be a very proper thing for my hon. friend the Minister of Marine and Fisheries (Mr. Pre-fontaine), or the Department of Marine and Fisheries, to cause an investigation to be made by an engineer of the department, and I know of no engineer possibly who would be more competent to make that investigation than Mr. St. George who was for so long a time the engineer of the city of Montreal and who had occasion particularly to study this matter of inundations. I think it would be only justice to the people of Verdun if the hon. minister would cause an investigation to be made as to what would be the best protection to be afforded against inundations of the town from the St. Lawrence in that locality. As I read the statute, 57-58 Vic., chap. 48, which is the last Act having reference to the harbour commissioners of Montreal, it appears to me, that that part of the town of Verdun which requires protection is outside of the jurisdiction of the harbour commissioners.

1 may be mistaken but I find in schedule

2 of the Act that I have just referred to that the western limit of the Montreal Harbour Board's jurisdiction is at the Little River St. Pierre and the inundation was caused by the situation of the land higher up than the entry of the Little River St. Pierre. If my interpretation of the schedule is correct it would be for the Department of Marine and Fisheries itself to look into the cause of that inundation and if possible to provide a remedy, because the results of last year's inundation were disastrous in the extreme. The damage was in a certain sense incalculable. These inundations, should they recur, would prevent the development of that thriving town, and if I am correctly informed by the people who know the locality well it would be very easy for the Department of Marine and Fisheries to provide adequate protection against inundation. I may mention, sir, that during the last election, the government candidate in the county of Jacques Cartier pledged himself solemnly as a supporter of the government that this matter would receive the immediate attention of the government.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

He was not elected.

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CON

Frederick Debartzch Monk

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MONK.

There was no condition of course, as my hon. friend will naturally suppose, in regard to that pledge. It was to be done absolutely under any circumstances whatever. People have relied upon that pledge ; in fact I did not receive at the time that support of the electors of Ver-

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dun which I might have received had the circumstances been different. I think the Minister of Marine and Fisheries, (Mr. I'rfi-fontaine) will appreciate the necessity of at least causing an investigation to be made. The continuation of the protection wall along the bank of the River St. Lawrence to such a point towards the west as would prevent the possibility of inundation from the river itself would not be very expensive. I think at any rate the engineer would be fully able to inform the department on that matter. The other point where water flowed in, that is to say the bank of the tail-race of the Montreal waterworks, just where it enters the River St. Lawrence is absolutely, as I understand the statute X have already quoted, under the control of the Department of Marine, and that department may either order the city of Montreal to provide there a sufficiently high bank to the tail-race to prevent the possibility of any flow in the future, or the department may itself execute the work if it thinks fit to do so. I commend this question, which interests greatly the town of Verdun, to the attention of my hon. friend the minister (Mr. Prefontaine).

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Hon. RAYMOND PREFONTAINE (Minister of Marine and Fisheries).

In answer to the hon. gentleman (Mr. Monk) I may state that there will be no objection whatever to the production of the papers mentioned, and those that are not in the possession of the department shall be procured from the Harbour Commissioners of Montreal. As regards having a special report made as to the state of affairs at Verdun, I shall consider the matter seriously and consult with Mr. St. George whose name has been mentioned. I know he is a competent man to do this work, because he has been connected with all the works of flood protection in Montreal during the last ten years.

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Motion agreed to.


NORTH-WEST MOUNTED POLICE ACT AMENDMENT.


Bill (No. 8) to amend the Mounted Police Act, 1894.-Sir Wilfrid Laurier-read the second time, and House went into committee thereon. On section 1, pay of the force.


CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

How will this compare with the salaries now given ? [DOT]

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LIB

Romuald-Charlemagne Laurier

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

At a previous stage I explained that the object of this Bill is to increase the pay of the officers by $400 and of the non-commissioned officer's and constables by 25 cents a day. At present, for instance, the commissioner who has charge of the police at Regina receives $2,600. He will receive $3,000. A superintendent receives if I remember rightly Mr. MONK.

$1,400 ; he will now receive $1,800. The inspectors receive $1,000 ; they will receive $1,400. I may say that this is the maximum, and it is not intended to give them that amount of increase at once. The plan we have adopted is that all officers who have been eight years in the service shall receive at once the increase of $400 ; all others will receive increases varying by $50 for each year that they have been in the service, until they reach $1,400. All those who have been eight years in the service will receive at once the increase of $400 ; those who have been seven years will receive an increase of $350 ; those who have been six years will receive $300 and those who have been one, year in the service will receive an increase of $50. The same principle applies to the constables.

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CON

George Eulas Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER.

How many assistant commissioners are there ?

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LIB

Romuald-Charlemagne Laurier

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

The list of officers gives 55. Thirteen officers will at once receive the $400 ; two will receive $350 each ; two will receive $300 ; five will receive $250 ; eight will receive $200 ; two will receive $150 ; eight will receive $100 ; ten will receive $50 ; five will receive nothing.

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CON

Joseph Gédéon Horace Bergeron

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BERGERON.

Who is the commissioner ?

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LIB
CON

Joseph Gédéon Horace Bergeron

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BERGERON.

What has become of his predecessor, Colonel Herchmer ?

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LIB

Romuald-Charlemagne Laurier

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

He was superannuated in 1901 or 1902.

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CON
LIB

Romuald-Charlemagne Laurier

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

I cannot give the exact amount, whatever the law allows him. He came under the rules of the Civil Service and received just the amount that he was legally entitled to.

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February 2, 1905