February 2, 1905

LIB

Charles Fitzpatrick (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Hon. CHARLES FITZPATRICK (Minister of Justice).

The question of the return 15*

of the member elected for the Yukon came under the notice of the Secretary of State, who made inquiry as to the reason why the regular return had not been made. He was informed by telegram from the Yukon that February 7 had been fixed by the returning officer as the day for the declaration of the result of the election. The Secretary of State, not having any authority to interfere, sent a telegram to press upon the returning officer the importance of settling the matter at once, so that the hon. gentleman who had been elected might take his seat at the earliest possible moment.

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LIB

Charles Fitzpatrick (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. FITZPATRICK.

I have not that date in mind at the moment. I thought the question of this return would come up, and had a full statement concerning it, but, unfortunately, I did not bring the papers with me. I shall be prepared to make a full statement to-morrow.

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LIB

Charles Fitzpatrick (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. FITZPATRICK.

It does seem rather peculiar. I have made inquiry myself and I find that under the Yukon Representation Act there are certain provisions of the Dominion Elections Act that are not made applicable to the Yukon, and that, strictly speaking, the returning officer was within his rights in fixing February 7, as the flay for making his declaration. Still, the delay is unusual, and he has been asked to make an explanation.

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LIB

Charles Fitzpatrick (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. FITZPATRICK.

I do not remember the name. But I will have the papers with me to-morrow and will be ready to make a full statement.

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BRITISH EMBARGO ON CANADIAN CATTLE.

CON

Haughton Lennox

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAUGHTON LENNOX (South Sim-coe).

I desire to call the attention of the government to ap item appearing in the Montreal 'Daily Star ' in reference to the embargo on Canadian cattle. And, as this is a matter in which every hon. member is interested, and one that effects very deeply the interests of the country, I will take the liberty of reading a few lines. In the special cable correspondence dated February 1, is the following :-

Hon. Henry Chaplin, ex-Minister of Agriculture, started yesterday at Oakham a campaign in the rural constituencies against re-opening British ports to Canadian store cattle. He hotly denounced Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman for so trifling with the heavy responsibilities which may soon be his as a minister of the crown by favouring the re-exposure of British herds to the risk of disease after the enormous trouble and expense of stamping it

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out. If the Canadian store cattle are readmitted, British agriculturists would again find their herds decimated by disease. The removal of the embargo would be an act of insanity, ruinous to the British cattle feeders.

And the correspondent sums it up under the head ' Canada's Problem.'

A most interesting political situation is thus created. The question asked is ' Can the Canadian government enable Sir Henry Campbell-Bannerman to prove to parliament that the Canadian herds are absolutely free from risk of contagion from the American States ? '

I see by the press, particularly in the Toronto ' World,' the statement that the government is about to take active measures to secure the removal of the British embargo. I do not know whether that is a fact or not, but am quite aware that the government in common with members on this side of the House appreciate the importance of having that embargo removed. I submit that it is very important that the agitation now going on against the removal of the embargo should be, in some way, counteracted.

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LIB

Robert George Macpherson

Liberal

Mr. R. G. MACPHERSON (Vancouver City).

I would like to ask the hon. gentleman (Mr. Lennox) if he suppressed any of the despatch he has just quoted from. We had the spectacle last year of that hon. gentleman reading a letter in the House and suppressing part of it.

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Haughton Lennox

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LENNOX.

I will, as a matter of privilege, reply to the hon. gentleman (Mr. Macpherson) at a suitable time. The public press, I hope, is open to the hon. gentleman (Mr. Macpherson), and I commend it to his consideration. The public press affords exceptional means of enlightenment, and I commend it to the hon. gentleman.

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Order.

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LIB

Robert George Macpherson

Liberal

Mr. MACPHERSON.

I would ask the hon. gentleman (Mr. Lennox) to hand the paper over to me, or to lay it on the table, so that I can see it for myself.

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LIB

Sydney Arthur Fisher (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Hon. SYDNEY FISHER (Minister of Agriculture).

The hon. gentleman (Mr. Lennox) has brought to the attention of the House a most important subject which is, apparently, to-day engaging the attention of public men in the old country. For some time past references have appeared in the British press and in the cable despatches in our own newspapers to the utterances of public men on both sides of politics on this subject in the political campaign now going on. I have watched closely the reports of these utterances.

I have felt, however, that it was not for any public men in Canada to interject into a political controversy in the old land-the view of the people of Canada upon this subject-I thought that it would injure the Mr. LENNOX.

position that Canada might occupy in the discussion of the subject with the British government when the time becomes ripe for re-opening the discussion. I may say, that, some time ago, the then Minister of Agriculture in England declared emphatically that there was no use in discussing that question, because the embargo would not be removed. That statement was called forth, I might say, by representations made by the government of Canada on this subject. We have felt, since an emphatic reply of that kind was given, that there was nothing further for us to do until an opportune occasion arose for re-opening the question. I may add that, within the last few weeks what appeared to me to be an opportune occasion for re-opening that question occurred. There was a report, apparently authentic, that the present Minister of Agriculture had declared publicly that, from his observation, the people of Canada seemed to be quite satisfied with the present condition of affairs, and that being the case there was no necessity for further discussing the matter. I took the liberty of immediately making a recommendation to His Excellency, that a despatch should be sent to the home government drawing attention to this utterance, asking if it were an official utterance, correctly reported, and pointing out that if it were, the Minister of Agriculture was labouring under a most grave misapprehension as to the condition of opinion on this question in Canada. So far no reply to that despatch has been received. The question is an important one in the interest of Canadian trade and in the interest of Canadian stock raisers and those who are in the live stock trade between Canada and the old land. I want to assure the hon. gentleman and the House that the question is one which is constantly watched on behalf of the government, and that every occasion that seems possible on which the views of the Canadian people and the interests of the Canadian trade can be furthered will be taken advantage of and has been taken advantage of.

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George Eulas Foster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOSTER.

I think it would be more within the comprehension of the House if the hon. minister would lay that despatch from which he has quoted on the table for the information of hon. members. No doubt we would all like to read that despatch. It is strong and eloquently expressed I have no doubt.

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LIB

Sydney Arthur Fisher (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. FISHER.

I will be very happy indeed to bring a copy of that despatch down at once.

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William Findlay Maclean

Independent Conservative

Mr. W. F. MACLEAN.

Does the hon. Minister of Agriculture lay down the doctrine that it would be a good thing for Canadians to export their store cattle to England rather than fatten them here ?

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LIB

Sydney Arthur Fisher (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. FISHER.

I have never laid down any doctrine on that point, but I do lay down

the doctrine that it would be in the interest of the Canadian live stock trade to have the embargo removed.

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IND

William Findlay Maclean

Independent Conservative

Mr. W. F. MACLEAN.

Yes, but not for lean cattle.

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February 2, 1905