August 9, 1904

LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

I have not got it under my hand, but I know a dispute has taken place, and we came to the conclusion that there was nothing else to do but for the department to remove the obstruction, and we ask for this vote of money to help the shipping of Montreal in removing the obstruction.

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CON

Haughton Lennox

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LENNOX.

Has the minister taken advice as to who is liable for the removal ?

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

The company is liable for the removal, and they have not done it, and whilst the dispute is going on the shipping people are suffering from the obstruction and clamouring for its removal.

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CON

Haughton Lennox

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LENNOX.

I ask the minister if he has taken advice as to who was the proper party to remove it ?

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

We notified the Harbour Commissioners and they notified the owners of this sunken elevator, and they are quarreling about it, and during the quarrel navigation is suffering.

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CON

Haughton Lennox

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LENNOX.

Either the owner of the elevator or the Harbour Commissioners should remove it. I am asking the minister if he has taken advice as to which of them should remove it.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

In case the proprietor does not remove it the Harbour Commissioners of Montreal who have control of the harbour have got to remove it, and neither of them have done so. There is a lawsuit pending between the proprietor and the Harbour Commissioners, and in the meantime navigation is suffering, and the government have concluded to come to the rescue.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

The Montreal Elevator Company has guaranteed to pay.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

She struck against an angle of the wharf.

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CON

Haughton Lennox

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LENNOX.

The minister has not yet answered my question whether he had taken advice as to who was liable to remove it

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

The department does not require to take advice. When the parties themselves come to us and ask us to take the obstruction away, we have to do it, and we reimburse ourselves afterwards.

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CON

Haughton Lennox

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LENNOX.

That is a new development, the minister did not tell us that before.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

I said it twice.

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CON

Haughton Lennox

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LENNOX.

What I understand from the hon. minister now is not that this is a question of these parties refusing to do this or quarreling amongst themselves, but that they have come and asked the department to remove the obstruction promising to reimburse the department. That is not what the hon. minister said a few moments ago, when he said that under the statute the department is liable and compelled to remove it. The hon. minister now says that

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the parties hare requested the department to remove it. What guarantee have the department that after they incur an expense of $9,000 they will be reimbursed.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

All wrecks have to be removed. Are you going to allow navigation to be interrupted because a private party is responsible for the removal of the obstruction ?

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CON

John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAGGART.

How much is it expected to cost ?

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

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August 9, 1904