August 9, 1904

LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. FIELDING.

The power at one end is greater than the other and they propose to equalize that.

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LIB

Alexander Johnston

Liberal

Mr. ALEX. JOHNSTON.

At present they are in constant communication with ships leaving this side until they reach the other side. The ships crossing the Atlantic .keep in constant touch with the station on this side.

To provide for a steamer to replace the ' Aberdeen ' to be constructed as an ice breaker for the River St. Lawrence, $300,000.

To provide for the construction of a steamer for winter and summer navigation, Quebec, $125,000.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

This will provide winter navigation between Quebec on the north shore and the gulf and also will provide a service between RiviSre Ouelle and Murray bay. There is a ferry between those two points now provided by the Marine Department, because the company, which had the subsidy last year, refused to continue the service with a proper boat.

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CON

John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAGGART.

This is a new item and the government are doing what ought to be done by private enterprise.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

The boat is required for winter navigation.

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CON

John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAGGART.

You have a vote for that purpose immediately preceding. This is an excuse for the purpose of providing what private enterprise ought to do-a line of steamers down the St. Lawrence.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

The first steamer could not do that service. She has to remain all around Quebec and draws too much water, but this other one will solve the problem of winter navigation to the ports below Quebec.

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CON

John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAGGART.

I cannot understand why you should establish a ferry to Riviere Ouelle. You are doing there what in every other part of the Dominion is done by private enterprise. This is the only case I know of where the government spends money on a ferry service.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

There is the Mul-grave ' doing the same service for the Intercolonial.

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CON

John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAGGART.

The 1 Mulgrave ' connects two points on the Intercolonial. It crosses the Gulf of Canso. There is no similarity.

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CON

George William Fowler

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOWLER.

I can see the importance of keeping open the St. Lawrence in winter.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

There are over GOO miles on the north shore of the St. Lawrence which are perfectly closed to navigation during the winter. Unless some winter navigation is provided, these people will be deprived of all communication whatever in the winter season. Private companies would not accept the subsidy offered by tfie government as they were not sure winter navigation was pcfcsible, and we judged it would be wise to show that winter navigation is possible. It is for this reason we are providing $125,000 for the construction of a steamer.

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CON

George William Fowler

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOWLER.

I would be rather favourable to the experiment and I can understand that it is difficult to get private capital to undertake the risk. I think it is the duty of the government, if the experiment is reasonable and feasible, to spend public money in trying it.

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CON
LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

By Fleming & Ferguson, and will be delivered the 1st December.

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CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

I can understand why this might be desirable in winter, but this is for winter and summer.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

It may be put on (luring tbe summer between Murray bay and Riyi6re Ouelle in case no company will undertake that service. We require a ferry there for the benefit of the Intercolonial, as such a ferry brings a great deal of travel and freight over the Intercolonial for Murray bay which otherwise would be lost to that road.

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CON

George William Fowler

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOWLER.

I do not think the government should go into competition with private parties.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

Nor do I. But it was impossible to find private parties who would carry on the service.

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CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

The hon. minister says that the ferry was remunerative. Will he tell us what the receipts were last year ?

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August 9, 1904