August 9, 1904

L-C

Samuel Hughes

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. SAM. HUGHES.

What has been done with regard to the Campbell matter, which I brought to the attention of the House some time ago ?

Topic:   CLAIM OF MR. JOHN CAMPBELL.
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LIB

Sydney Arthur Fisher (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. FISHER.

I have looked into the case and can see no reason -why we should pay any compensation to Mr. Campbell.

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CANADIAN HORSES-IMPERIAL CON. NECTION.


air. SAM. HUGHES. In the * Citizen ' of yesterday I find the following despatch from the Canadian Associated Press, of which therefore the Finance Minister will not deny the authenticity : A parliamentary report issued by the War Office with reference to South Africa shows a forfeit of ten pounds per animal had to be paid on 1,685 horses bought in Hungary, three pounds on those secured in New Zealand, while in Canada the proceeds of a sale of 1,152 remounts bought at an average of $140 per head, amounted to no more than an average of $42. We have frequently asked to have this matter investigated, but the minister has always refused. I would ask the Finance Minister whether there is any intention on the part of the government of having any inquiry ? I would also ask if it is the intention of the government to take any steps with regard to closer relations with the empire as a whole ? If I understand the sentiment of all nationalities in the Dominion, the vast majority of the people of all parties are of the opinion that the time is now ripe, so far as Canada is concerned, for closer relations. I believe that the people of the outlying parts of the empire would heartily accept any proposition looking towards a full partnership in the concerns of Greater Britain-Great Britain could retain her own parliament, Canada her own, Australia hers, New Zealand hers, and South Africa hers, with certain arrangements for the Crown colonies. It would be a simple thing for the genius of the empire to provide a greater Britain parliament in which in matters relating to international and interimperial affairs, the army and navy, the consular and ambassadorial service, the colonies would have an equal voice with the mother country. The excellent speech delivered by the hon. member for St. James (Mr. Gervais) shows that public sentiment is ripe to bring about such a condition of affairs that Canadians should become full partners in the upbuilding of the empire. I intended bringing the matter up some time ago, but as I will not have any other opportunity I would ask the government now if they have any intention of giving an expression of opinion on this matter so as to strengthen the hands of Mr. Chamberlain and his friends in the coming contest in Great Britain ?


LIB

William Stevens Fielding (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Hon. W. S. FIELDING (Minister of Finance).

I am sorry the hon. gentleman did not bring the question up when the Prime Minister was present. I can only say that the views of the government on this matter have already been placed before the House,

and I do not think anything could be added to the statements that have already been made.

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Motion agreed to, and House went into Committee of Supply. Department of Marine and Fisheries-to increase the salaries of W. J. Stewart, chief hydrographic service, $100 ; J. F. Fraser, engineer and commissioner of lights, $200 ; B. H. Fraser, assistant chief engineer, $200 ; F. Anderson, assistant hydrographer, $250 ; notwithstanding anything in the Civil Service Act, $750. To provide for the appointment of J. B. A. Boudreau as a first-class clerk and assistant accountant from July 1, 1904, in room of F. H. Cunningham transferred to the outside service, notwithstanding anything in the Civil Service Act, $1,500 ; $2,250.


CON

John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAGGART.

What salary is Mr. Stewart receiving now ?

Topic:   CANADIAN HORSES-IMPERIAL CON. NECTION.
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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

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CON

John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAGGART.

He is a graduate of the Royal Military College.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

Yes.

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CON
CON

Andrew Broder

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BRODER.

In reference to this man Fraser I would ask what reason there was for moving the works which the department started at Morrisburg to Prescott.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

It was reported we had not sufficient room at Morrisburg and we had acquired property on very reasonable terms at Prescott.

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CON

Andrew Broder

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BRODER.

There was no trouble in securing property at Morrisburg and you had already gone to considerable expense there.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

Mr. J. P. Fraser reported that the property at Prescott was far more suitable than that at Morrisburg, and that we had all the buildings and machinery and power necessary at Prescott and also a wharf.

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CON

John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAGGART.

You have no power at Prescott and no wharf.

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

We have steam power.

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CON

John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAGGART.

Of course you can have that anywhere, but why did you not utilize the water-power on the canal at Morrisburg ?

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LIB

Joseph Raymond Fournier Préfontaine (Minister of Marine and Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. PREFONTAINE.

My officials were in favour of Prescott.

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CON

John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. HAGGART.

That is no reason at, all. There is no possible advantage over Morrisburg in moving to Prescott.

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August 9, 1904