July 21, 1904

LIB

William Ross

Liberal

Mr. WM. ROSS (Victoria).

I was eight years in the parliament of Nova Scotia before confederation ; I have been a representative in this House for a number of years, and I must say that the style of debate I have heard to-night is no credit to either one side nor the other. Surely we ought to remember that we are gentlemen in this House, and that these contradictions from one side to the other should be avoided. This style of debate is sickening.

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Andrew B. Ingram

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. INGRAM.

The Minister of the Interior says he has never heard of this publication by the Edmonton ' Bulletin. ' What we want to know is whether it is the intention of the department to pay for the whole or any portion of this literature.

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Clifford Sifton (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. SIFTON.

I answered I had never heard of it before.

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Andrew B. Ingram

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. INGRAM.

That is not an answer to the question. .

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Clifford Sifton (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. SIFTON.

Will the hon. gentleman wait till I get through ? I said I never heard of it before and that we had no intention of paying for it.

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Clifford Sifton (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. SIFTON.

I made it before.

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Andrew B. Ingram

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. INGRAM.

Is it the policy of the department to allow one of its agents to issue literature for circulation abroad,_ promoting immigration to any particular section ?

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LIB

Clifford Sifton (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Liberal

Mr. SIFTON.

I see no objection to that. Of course if it were brought to our attention we would not permit a statement derogatory to any other district.

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Andrew B. Ingram

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. INGRAM.

That is after the literature is published. You would lock the stable door after the steed is stolen. Unlike the Liberal opposition before 1896, there is not a gentleman on this side of the House who objects to voting money for a wise expenditure on immigration. When we placed items for immigration in the estimates before the Liberal opposition told us that the expenditure was too large.

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LIB

Mahlon K. Cowan

Liberal

Mr. COWAN.

You paid for literature before it was printed and it was never circulated, although the man got the money.

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LIB

Mahlon K. Cowan

Liberal

Mr. COWAN.

Prior to 1896, when the exmember for Assiniboia was proprietor of the Regina ' Leader,' you paid him $2,000 and you were to receive several thousand copies of his paper to be circulated abroad. You paid him the $2,000 before it was printed. You never got a paper to circulate abroad, and he charged at the rate of $22 per column for inserting in connection with the fair held at Regina, the breeding of the different horses that were entered in the speeding ring at the horse races. I remember that one item calculated to attract immigration to the Northwest Territories was the entry of a race horse named Skyscraper, bred out of Thunderbolt and sired by Spinaway. This thing was investigated by the Public Accounts Committee, and there are members opposite to-night who opposed the commissioner's report censuring that sort of thing.

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LIB

Mahlon K. Cowan

Liberal

Mr. COWAN.

Absolutely, because I examined the witnesses myself before the committee and the evidence is on record.

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Andrew B. Ingram

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. INGRAM.

Is the hon. gentleman as truthful about this as he was about the duty on corn.

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Mahlon K. Cowan

Liberal

Mr. COWAN.

I was truthful about the duty on corn and I am truthful about this. The hon. gentleman was mistaken about the duty on corn, but I thought I had given him enough information to make him wise.

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Andrew B. Ingram

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. INGRAM.

The answer of the government he supports contradicted his statement, and bore out my statement on that matter!

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Peter Macdonald (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER.

I hope hon. gentlemen will not get on the corn question now.

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July 21, 1904