July 5, 1904

CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

There was information asked for with regard to both. I can look up the ' Hansard ' and find out what it is.

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Peter Macdonald (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER.

I never mark an item passed unless the committee are agreeable.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

The information can be brought down on another item.

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Peter Macdonald (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER.

My clerk certifies that that item was passed. Some questions were asked in regard to it, but it was allowed to pass.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

When an item is to be passed the question should be distinctly put to the committee so that every one may hear it, and that every one who has any objection to its passing or desires it to stand, may then speak. But that is not always done.

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LIB

Peter Macdonald (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER.

I always ask ' Shall the item be adopted ? ' Then I pause for a moment or two to* see if any person objects, and if there is no response, then I declare it passed: Sometimes I may make al mistake.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

Are we then to leave the items ' To strengthen bridges, $385,000 ' and ' To exchange draw-bars of freight cars, $45,000 ' to stand until we get information ? [DOT]

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

I think the Minister will find that some information was to be obtained about the item of $25,000.

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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

I have asked Mr. Pot-tinger for information. This present item ' to equip four passenger cars with Pintsch gas apparatus, $3,500,' is a revote. Last year $8,000 was appropriated for the purpose. The total estimated cost for equipping the passenger ears with this apparatus is $22,400. We are asking for $3,500 in order Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER.

to equip four passenger cars this year. The total number to be equipped is twenty-six. Up to the 30th June, 1903, fourteen had been equipped, and it is estimated that there will have been six equipped to the 30th June last. Therefore, the estimated number that will have been equipped to the 30tli June, 1904, is twenty and the balance to be equipped after the 30th June is six. The estimated number to be done in 1904-5 is four, and after the 30th June, 1905, there will be two to be equipped.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

How many cars are at present equipped ?

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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

There are twenty-six altogether to be equipped. We have equipped twenty. That leaves six. We propose to equip four this year and two after June 30, 1905.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

You do not propose to equip all your cars but only twenty-six ?

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

How are the other cars lighted ?

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

American or Canadian ?

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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

I could not tell the hon. gentleman; I think very largely by Canadian oil. The Imperial Oil Company have the contract for furnishing it, and as it is a Canadian concern, I presume they are furnishing good Canadian goods.

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LIB

Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

Perhaps we will have New Brunswick oil supplied before long.

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July 5, 1904