July 4, 1904

LIB

Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

I have been trying to tell my hon. friend that up to the 30th of April it was over half a million dollars.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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CON

Edward Frederick Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE.

You are doing very nicely.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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LIB

Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

It is a growing time, and there are very, good reasons for the increased expenditure. My hon. friend will not be able to derive very much comfort from it, because be assumes to be a friend of the labouring men, and the financial condition of the Intercolonial to-day is largely due to the increased wages which we have paid to the employees of the Intercolonial.

I am sure my hon. friend will not cry over that.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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CON

Edward Frederick Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE.

I presume the hon. gentleman will give us the figures to carry on the comparison ? That is all we ask for. I am delighted to hear of the increased w age.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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LIB

Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

I will give the figures.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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CON

John Waterhouse Daniel

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DANIEL.

The hon. gentleman said the deficit was largely due to the increased wages paid on the Intercolonial Railway. Could the hon. gentleman give us the amount of the increase, so that we could see for ourselves how near it was to the deficit ?

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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LIB

Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

My hon. friend seems to be impatient. I made the comparison between the years 1902 and 1903. I am now approaching the consideration of the financial condition of the Intercolonial Railway during the ten months ending April 30, 1904, as compared with the ten months ending April 30, 1903 ; and it will be my privilege to show wherein there has been an increase in the wages paid all over the line, in all branches and all departments of the Intercolonial-an increase which was justifiable in my judgment, by reason of the industrial activity and the requirements of the present time as compared with previous years. I will first give a comparative statement of the earnings and the working expenses for the month of April, 1904, as compared w'lth the month of April, 1903 :

April, 1903. April, 1904.

$ 547,845.44 483,899.47 8 577,959.50 482.653.83

Working expenses....

Profit 63,945.97 95,305.67

Showing that the month of April, 1904,.

so far as the earning power of the Intercolonial Railway is concerned, was a very much more favourable month than the month of April, 1903, and also that in April, 1904, we expended less, although we earned more, than we did in April, 1903. That is only a little bright spot indicating what I am hoping for during the remainder of this season.

I will now give a comparative statement for the ten months ending April 30, 1904, and the ten months ending April 30, 1903 :

10 months to April 30, 1903. 10 months to April 30, 1904.

Earnings $5,292,639.09 5,288,763.56 $5,287,521.14 ' 5,835,294.07

Working expenses

Profit 3,876.13 Loss 547,772.93

One very material feature to be considered in connection with the financial condition of a road is the amount expended annually in betterments. We all recognize the fact that in addition to the ordinary expenses required to maintain a road, if the ordinary depreciation is to be arrested and the value of the property is to be in any way kept up, there must be in all departments- on the track, in connection with the cars, and on the equipment generally-an annual expenditure even more than sufficient to keep the road up to its normal condition.; Now, I would invite the attention of the House to a statement which I will read with respect to the betterments made during the ten months ending April 30, 1903, in comparison with the ten months ending April

Betterments.

Repairs to engines

Water

Repairs to passenger cars

Repairs to postal express and baggage,

Repairs to freight cars and vans....

Repairs to snow ploughs

Maintenance

Increase in 1904.

<^T' BELL. That item of 'water' will not include rental for water or money paid for water ?

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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LIB

Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

No.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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John William Bell

Mr. BELL.

That is just for permanent structures, &c ? That is to say the total disbursement expenditure for betterments for the ten months ending April 30th 1903 amounted to 82,156,043.80. And for the like period of 1904 to $2,277,298.03. An increase for the first ten months of 1904 of $121.-

254.23. That is the net increase in the expenditure for betterments.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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CON

John Waterhouse Daniel

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DANIEL.

Would my hon friend state exactly what these batterments consist of.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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LIB

Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

For 10 months ending April, 1903. For 10 months ending April, 1904. Increase for period ending April 30, 1904.$ cts. 376,596 29 40,797 90 131,837 82 28,696 27 347,442 84 13,249 56 1,217,423 12 $ cts. 403,023 85 42,749 33 125,896 38 41,721 32 347,110 80 6,591 36 1,310,204 99 $ cts. 26,427 56 1,951 43 5,941 44 13,025 05 332 04 6,658 20 92,781 872,156,043 80 2,277,298 03 121,254 232,156,043 80 121,254 23

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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LIB

Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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CON

John Waterhouse Daniel

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DANIEL.

Is that official still in the employ of the government?

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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LIB

Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

We had no mechanical superintendent during the year, and it is only lately that we have secured the services of one. That explains why there was a less expenditure in connection with the mechanical superintendent's office in 1904 than there was in 1903. I may also mention that the increase in the item for advertising arises from the expenditure in connection -with the St. Louis Exhibition.

Now we must deduct car mileage from these items. For 1904. we must deduct $94,949.24, and for 1903 we must deduct $84,363.69, an increase in the latter year of $10,585.55. That is to say you deduct from this increased car mileage on the Intercolonial the sum of $10,585.55, leaving the total increase at $546,530.51. Then you add the rental of tfbe leased lines, if you will, during that period, amounting to $116,666.68 in each year. The total figures then stand as follows : For 1904, $5,835,294.07 ; for 1903, $5,288,763.56, showing a total increase of $546,530.51. _

Now before leaving that branch of the subject, I have had a statement prepared summarizing the various increases, and giving the reason why the expenditure during ten months of the present fiscal year is so largely in excess of the expenditure of 1903, the excess amounting to no less than $546,631.51. Now how is that money expended ? Why was it that during the first ten months of the present financial year we were called upon to expend so large a sum in excess of the expenditure made during the same period of 1903 ?

Now, I am going to.show7 the House the gradual increase in wages from year to year and point out that there was a very large step forward in that direction during the year 1904. There w7as an increase, taking the same number of men, from 1896 to 1902, of $240,000 ; that is to say to the same number of employees in 1902 we were paying $240,000 more than we were paying to a like number of men in 1896. With the same number of employees we paid in the year 1903 $224,236 more than we paid in 1902.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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CON

Edward Frederick Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE.

How many employees were there in each year ?

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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LIB

Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

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Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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LIB

Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

Practically the same number. I have not the figures as to the exact number but I can furnish them.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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CON

Edward Frederick Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE.

WTould it not be well to have the figures showing the number of employees in each year ?

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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LIB

Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

I will be very glad to furnish that.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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CON

Edward Frederick Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE.

The number and the different classes of employees ?

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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July 4, 1904