July 4, 1904

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Hon. W. S.@

FIELDING (Minister of Finance) moved that the House go into Committee of Supply.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Hon. HENRY R. EMMERSON (Minister of Railways and Canals).

Mr. Speaker, before you leave the chair it is my purpose, following the precedent of recent years, to make a statement with respect to* the financial affairs of the Intercolonial for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1903. and at the same time to take into consideration the fiscal condition of the Intercolonial Railway during the year which has just closed. It will not be expected that I shall make more than a brief and concise statement of the financial affairs of the Intercolonial Railway, as I was not associated with the affairs of the Railway during the fiscal year ending June 30, 1903, and have been in office for only four months of the year just closed.

The gross earnings and the working expenses for the year ending June 30, 1903 compare as follows :

Gross earnings $6,324,323 72

Working expenses 6,196,653 19

Surplus $ 127,670 53

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COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.


- 1902. 1903. Increase.Wages of engineers s $ $and firemen. . 480,026 513,160 26,184Fuel 1,044,047 1,111,725 67,678Oil, waste, callow. . 27,150 29,881 2,731R epai rs, locomoti ves 374,699 407,861 33,162Water 40,166 44,149 3,983Miscellaneous 35,743 82,320 16,577Superinte n d e n t ' s office.. 22,144 17,061 Total 2,030,928 2,176,160 150,315


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James Clancy

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLANCY.

Was there about the same number of men employed as engineers and firemen in each of these years 7

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

About the same number. I am informed that there is practically no difference in the number employed. The increase in the item of wages of the engineers and firemen in 1903 was due to the increase in wages allowed to these men. There was a partial increase made before the year 1903 had expired. But, for practically the same number of men this amount is swollen by $26,184. The cost of fuel, as all hon. members from the maritime provinces will know, was somewhat increased in the winter of 1903, which readily explains the increase of $67,678 shown in the table. And as there were more locomotives in 1903, there was naturally more spent in small repairs and so on.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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John William Bell

Mr. BELL.

Does that item include other rolling stock ?

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

No, simply the locomotives. The superintendent's office shows a decrease. This is explained by the fact that there was no superintendent of motive power during at least the greater part of 1903, so that the department was saved the salary of that officer. With regard to car expenses, the following are the figures :- Car Expenses.

- 1902. 1903. Increase.Repairs to- [DOT]I * $Passenger cars. Postal, express, 117,332 152,672 35,340baggage cars. 31,193 33,022 1,829Preight cars. . . 304,035 412,612 108,577Snow ploughs. Wages, conductors, baggagemen and 7,510 13,250 5,740brakemen 472,227 497,753 20,526Oil and waste

Small stores and 6,992 9,211 2,219fuel. 125,851 151,411 25.560Miscellaneous 54,318 68,943 14,625

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Total. . ..@

1,119,461 1,338,857 214,416

Explanatory of these items it may be said that, as the condition of the equipment of the Intercolonial has been kept up to the standard the increased expenditure meant a better condition of the railway. Money could have been saved in this department by allowing repairs to be kept down to the lowest point ; but instead of that, in all departments, attention has been given to the maintenance of the rolling stock at the high standard of efficiency to which it had. admitttedly, been brought. The wages paid to conductors, baggage men and brakemen had been considerably increased. They had been increased somewhat previous to June 30, 1903.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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John Waterhouse Daniel

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DANIEL.

The minister says that the rolling stock is being kept up in a very good condition. Will he say whether that is being provided for out of revenue alone, or out of revenue and capital ?

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON:

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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

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the financial situation of the Intercolonial Railway during the fiscal year which ended on the 30th of June last. I have not a full statement of the expenditures up to the 30th of June. That would not be expected.

I have not a detailed statement as to these expenditures and receipts later than the 30th of April. I have a general statement in respect to the month of May, but as regards a detailed statement for the ten months ended on the 30th of April, I will be able to make a comparison with like expenditures during those ten months of the present fiscal year. I am bound to say that I cannot paint a very glowing picture as to the financial conditions during the past year.

The House will anticipate this, because the other day in reply to a question put by the hon. member for Compton (Mr. Tope) it was my misfortune to have to admit that the expenditure was very largely in excess of the receipts. However, I think I will be able to explain, to the satisfaction of the House, wherein the discrepancy lies, and when the explanation is given bon. gentlemen can form their own judgment. The total receipts for the month of April, 1904, were $577,959.50 and the expenses for the month of April, 1904, were 8482,653.83, showing a profit of $95,305.67 for that one month. The expenses for the month of April, 1903, were $483,899.47. while the receipts were $547,845.44, showing a profit during the month of April, 1903, of 863.945.97, as against $95,305.67 for the corresponding month of 1904.

The receipts for the ten months of 1903, up to the 30th of April, were $5,288,763.56, and the receipts 'for the same ten months in 1904 had grown to $5,835,294.07, showing an increase in the expenses for the ten months of 1904 over the ten months of 1903 amounting to $546,530.51.

The receipts for the ten months of 1903, up to the 30th of April, were $5,292,639.69, and the receipts for the same ten months in 1904 were $5,287,521.14, showing a decrease for the ten months of 1904, as compared with the ten months of 1903, of $5,118.55.

Mr. BliAIN. Was there any change in the freight or passenger rates ?

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMEBSON.

There was no change in the freight or passenger rates. The receipts for the ten mouths ending April 30th. 1903, were $5,292,639.69, and the expenditure for the same ten months amounted to $5,288,763.56, showing a surplus of $3,876.13.

The receipts for the ten months ending 30th of April, 1904, were $5,287,521.14, and the expenses for the same ten months, $5.835,294.07, showing a deficit of $547,772.93. I shall place facts before the House which will, I think, show the reasons for this condition of things.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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Edward Frederick Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE.

The hon. gentleman has compared the receipts and expenditures in 1902-3-4 -with the receipts and expenditures for the same period in 1895-6 ; will the hon. gentleman compare the receipts and expenditures for the year ending 30th June, 1904, with the receipts and the expenditures for the year ending 30th of June, 1895-6 ?

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

I will do that later.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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Edward Frederick Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE.

Does the hon. gentleman recollect what the deficit was in 1896 ?

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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Henry Robert Emmerson (Minister of Railways and Canals)

Liberal

Mr. EMMERSON.

It was $55,000.

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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Edward Frederick Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE.

And what is it this year ?

Topic:   SUPPLY - INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY.
Subtopic:   COMPARISON OF WORKING EXPENSES. LOCOMOTIVE DEPARTMENT.
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July 4, 1904