June 3, 1904


It would not have hurt my hon. friend to ndd a postscript that he intended to bring up this matter this afternoon. The hon. gentleman must be afaid, however, as he admits, or his conscience must have troubled him- something must have been the matter when lie was not willing to give me the British fair play that I offered him yesterday ? I Ho not think there is anything to reply to in what the hon. gentleman has said. The statement I made is unanswerable. I am willing to let the record stand. If anything can be established which shows that my statement was in any way wrong, I am willing to apologize. But I am quite satisfied that I shall never be called upon to .apologize because my statements are absolutely correct. As to entering into personalities, I can tell the hon, gentleman that there is not in my statement a single word of a personal character-not one.


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Uriah Wilson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. URIAH WILSON (Lennox).

Had the junior member for Halifax (Mr. Roche) [DOT]dropped this subject the first day, he would never have heard of it from me, because so far as I know, he and I have been upon the best terms in this House.

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Edward Frederick Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE.

But you will never speak as you pass by, after this.

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Uriah Wilson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WILSON.

Oh, yes. If the hon. gentleman holds the feeling that he expresses, we shall be good friends yet. I wish to say that there was not a single interruption of any kind when the hon. gentleman was speaking on this subject a year ago, nor did I say anything with reference to what he had stated. My interruptions were entirely in the speech of the Minister of the Interior (Mr. Sifton). Several members had spoken between my speech and that of the junior member for Halifax. When the Minister of the Interior spoke, he seemed to me to put woi'ds into my mouth that I had not uttered, and I told him. So far as I am concerned I want no personalities. I have no feeling in the matter, and the only thing that surprised me was that the junior member for Halifax should bring the question up a second time. He has now brought it up a third time. So far as I am concerned, let it drop where it is.

GRAND TRUNK PACIFIC-BRITISH

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SUBJECTS AS DIRECTORS.

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Thomas Chase Casgrain

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. T. CHASE CASGRAIN.

Before the Orders of the Day are called I desire to ask a question. When we were discussing the Transcontinental Bill, I moved an amendment to the effect that a majority of the board should be British subjects. The Minister of Justice (Mr. Fitzpatrick) said that a Bill was to be introduced to amend the General Railway Act in that direction. I would ask the Prime Minister (Sir Wilfrid Laurier) if that Bill is being prepared and when it will be submited to the House. We are getting near to-well, we are getting nearer to prorogation than we were, and if we wish to pass this Bill, it ought to be brought down now.

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Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

In order to anticipate the nearness of prorogation the Bill .has been prepared; it is ready.

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GRAND TRUNK PACIFIC-ALIENS EMPLOYED ON SURVEYS.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

Some answer should be given to-day to the interrogatory which I addressed to the government on Wednesday in regard to the constitution of the committee for inquiry into the question of Alien Labour.

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Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

I am sorry to say I must again tell my hon. friend (Mr. R. L. Borden) that I cannot answer his question. The Postmaster 'General (Sir) William Mulock) is away. I expected him this morning, but he has not yet returned. When he returns I shall be able to answer.

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CANADIAN-MEXICAN STEAMSHIP SERVICE.

CON

Thomas Earle

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. THOMAS EARLE (Victoria, B.C.).

Before the Orders of the Day are called I desire to ask the Minister of Trade and

Commerce (Sir Richard Cartwright) for information with regard to tenders for the steamship service between British Columbia and Mexico. 'The Daily Times' of Victoria, an organ of the government, a few days ago, published the following :

In the preliminary agreement made between Canada and Mexico in connection with the steamship service for which tenders are being called, it is provided that Victoria or any other port where business offers will be a port of call for the vessels of the line. This provision of the agreement will also be inserted in the contract with the steamship company.

Now, I understand that in the call for tenders no' provision is made for these steamers calling at the city of Victoria, and I would like to ask the minister if it is intended that that shall be inserted ?

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Richard Cartwright (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Rt. Hon. Sir RICHARD CARTWRIGHT (Minister of Trade and Commerce).

Generally speaking, in these contracts we have a clause allowing the minister to direct the calls to be made. In any case it is intended to have a clause inserted by which the steamships shall call at Victoria.

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LIB

Richard John Cartwright (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Sir RICHARD CARTWRIGHT.

Both.

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John Waterhouse Daniel

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. JOHN W. DANIEL.

I would like to make a brief reference to the same subject, on the Atlantic and not on the Pacific side. I notice that in the tenders which are called for the steamship service between Canada and Mexico on the Atlantic side, the port of St. John in entirely omitted. There is no mention made that St. John shall be a port of call for the service. I would like to ask the Minister of Trade and Commerce whether St. John is to be entirely excluded from this service or not. I have no doubt in the world that, if St. John were made a port of call there would be a very considerable trade between that port and Mexico to which this steamship service will go. I would like to hear from the Minister of Trade and Commerce with regard to that matter.

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Richard John Cartwright (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Sir RICHARD CARTWRIGHT.

For

these matters the amount of money at our disposal is not very large, and I am not quite in a position to say whether we will be able to deal with both services. But I think I will be able to meet the wishes of the hon. gentleman.

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Edward Frederick Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE.

Are any negotiations going on now respecting the establishment of a fast Atlantic line, and if so, what stage have they reached ?

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Richard John Cartwright (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Sir RICHARD CARTWRIGHT.

No negotiations other than the additional contract that was laid on the table with the Allan's, and which the hon. gentleman has seen. It was laid on the table some time ago.

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June 3, 1904