May 27, 1904

LIB

Sydney Arthur Fisher (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. FISHER.

They are not published, they are individual reports and will be sent to the people interested. If they were cf general interest I "would certainly take steps to see that they were published.

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Rufus Henry Pope

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. POPE.

The results are not published in any way by the imperial institute ?

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LIB

Sydney Arthur Fisher (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. FISHER.

Not the individual reports. They would only give a report saying that so many investigations were made and perhaps group these as to the character of the investigation but they would not give the details.

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James Clancy

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLANCY.

It appears to me that everything has been subordinated to these technical examinations. I quite understand the value of such examinations, but I do n;olt think It would be impossible to have such examinations made on this side of the Atlantic so far as Canada is concerned. It occurs to me, speaking off-hand, that this should be rather the unimportant than the mainly important feature. The $0,000 which we are contributing seems to be mainly for this purpose.

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Sydney Arthur Fisher (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. FISHER.

Speaking from memory I should say that we have a length of gallery about 40 feet wide and nearly 400 feet in length.

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LIB

Sydney Arthur Fisher (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. FISHER.

I think it is about as large as any other. We have a considerable amount of space but much of our space was not very well utilized. We had a considerable amount of almost bare or vacant floor space and that was only tilled by the exhibits which I sent there from Wolverhampton. I have not been there since the exhibits were sent. When the hon. member for Bothwell says that I was rather half-hearted in the matter, I think he will see that such is not the case. Had it not been for the delay due to the transference of this institute from one organization to another, we would have had an exhibit there long ago, but while the transfer was going on, I could not get any information as to the details or as to the authority with whom to deal. When I sent communications to the old authorities they simply replied t,hat they could do nothing about them until the new organization was complete and therefore nothing could be done. This has been going on for two years.

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James Clancy

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLANCY.

What I was endeavouring to learn was our relative position with the other colonies. I assume there is space allotted to all the colonies, and that the colonies have been contributing less or more. And as to the new organization, I would like some statement from the hon. minister as to how it is composed.

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Sydney Arthur Fisher (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. FISHER.

My hon. friend does not appreciate the fact that these votes lapse. In the first place, the expenditure which he has reference to in the Auditor General's Report was for the year preceding, and there was a vote of $3,000 for that year. It Is for the fiscal year now current that we have a vote of $8,000, and I have spent only about $60 of that. I spoke of the stoppage in consequence of the transference of the institute, and this has completely stopped my expenditure and prevented me from doing anything about it. The consequence is that at the end of this fiscal year, unless I can manage now to spend some money in the preparation of exhibits, the whole of the $8,000, with the exception of the small sum which I have mentioned, will lapse.

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May 27, 1904