May 3, 1904

PETITIONS FOR PRIVATE BILLS.

LIB

George Davidson Grant

Liberal

Mr. G. D. GRANT (North Ontario) moved:

That a petition for leave to introduce a Bill praying for the incorporation of the Kingston Dominion Central Railway Company be now received, and be referred to the Seleet Stand-inf: Committee on Standing Orders:

He said : Those interested in this Bill had been under the impression that they could utilize the charter granted to them some years ago, but a few days ago they ascertained that they could not do so, and then the time for presenting petitions for private Bills had expired.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

I have not the slightest objection to these petitioners getting relief, but I would point out that the more indulgent the House is the more careless and indifferent become those who seek legislation here. In future any such petitions will have to be founded upon better grounds than those which the hon. member (Mr. Grant) has presented to the House to-day. The mere fact that the gentlemen who are promoting this Bill were under a wrong impression is no reason why the House should be asked to relax its rules.

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Motion agreed to.


LIB

Aulay MacAulay Morrison

Liberal

Mr. ATJLAY MORRISON (New Westminster) moved :

That the petition of the Ottawa Electric Company be read and received forthwith, and referred to the Select Standing Committee on Standing Orders.

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LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

What is the reason for this ?

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LIB

Aulay MacAulay Morrison

Liberal

Mr. MORRISON.

This motion was passed yesterday, but in deference to the objection raised toy the leader of the opposition, and the suggestion made by the Clerk of the House, I now make the motion anew. I be lieve that it is quite in order for me to insist that the motion was adopted yesterday, hut I do not wish to have this important

petition presented in any manner that would raise doubt about it. There was no objection taken to my motion yesterday at the time it was put from the chair ; the objection came afterwards on the motion of my hon. friend from North Ontario.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

The hon. gentleman should state the reason why this petition was not presented within the time fixed under the rules of parliament.

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LIB

Aulay MacAulay Morrison

Liberal

Mr. MORRISON.

Personally, I know nothing about it, as it was put into my hands only at the last moment by the solicitors of the Electric Company. The petition itself contains the reasons, and I am satisfied that good grounds for the application are given in it.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

It may be that the petition contains the reasons, but it is usual that the member making a motion should support It by stating reasons which would induce the House to adopt it. If my hon. friend (Mr. Morrison) is not prepared to give the reasons, perhaps the petition had better be read.

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LIB

Aulay MacAulay Morrison

Liberal

Mr. MORRISON.

The petition is in the hands of the Speaker, but I will get it and read the contents. The petition reads as follows :

Owing to unavoidable circumstances the petitioners were una.ble to present their petition within the time limit fixed by your honourable House to receive petitions for private Bills.

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Hear, hear.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN.

I may be permitted to say that I think this is quite as good a case as that of the other petition which has just been received, and contains reasons fully as unanswerable.

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Motion agreed to.


THE PARLIAMENTARY ELEVATORS.

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Mr. R. G. MACPHBRSON@Burrard

Mr. Speaker, before the Orders of the Day are called, I wish to draw your attention, and through you the attention of the proper authorities who have charge of the internal economy of this building, to the fact that to-day while I and four or five others were coming down from the Railway Committee in the elevator on the west side of the stairway, a serious accident was only averted by the machinery not giving way too quickly. We got down from the second story to the first story safely enough. After that you would think the elevator was a king's plater out for fast exercise, because it went down to the bottom in a very unnecessary and indecent manner. I do not wish to magnify this occurrence at all, but I wish to draw your attention to it, and to point the moral. Besides a little scare and a severe jolt, nothing occurred of a very serious character ; but the machinery might as well have given way at the top as half way down.

and had it done so, I fancy that some of the first families of this land would he wearing crepe.

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Name, name.

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LIB

Robert George Macpherson

Liberal

Mr. MACPHERSON.

However, Mr. Speaker, I think the attention of the government might be called to this point that an elevator is just as much a vehicle for conveying the people as a steamboat or any other public means of conveyance, and that the man in charge of it should know something about machinery, just as the man in charge of the wheel of a steamboat should know something about navigating. I do not wish to magnify the occurrence, but I can assure you that a serious accident might easily happen from people undertaking to run these elevators who are not capable of doing so.

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LIB

James Sutherland (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Hon. JAS. SUTHERLAND (Minister of Public Works).

My hon. friend is perfectly right in saying that the man in charge of an elevator should be qualified and that the machine should be the best. I believe our elevators are so, as they are manufactured by the best makers in the country. The matter will be inquired into at once by the chief architect of the department, and if it is found necessary to make any change or improvement, it will certainly be done.

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INQUIRY FOR RETURN.

May 3, 1904