April 8, 1904

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Edmund Boyd Osler

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. OSLER.

I am sorry the repm for not reach the hon. gentleman in ti him to read it, because I quite intend it should. . th*:

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Benjamin Russell

Liberal

Mr. RUSSELL.

We would have all that government ownership can give. We would have the fixing of the rates and the running and management of the road and everything in the wide world which government ownership could give. What is there about the load that we would not own ?

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James Clancy

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLANCY.

We would have to return it after the debts of the Grand flunk Railway were paid.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. T. S. SPROTJLE (East Grey).

Mr. Speaker, the' closing remarks of the hon. member for Hants (Mr. Russell) reminded me of what X once read in the good hook. When he endeavoured to indulge in prophecy I thought of the words that there

__________ . would come a time in the history of the

other side of the I world when many false prophets would be

present. I have no doubt that my bon. friend (Mr. Russell) fulfilled that statement to the letter in making the prophecy which he did in his closing remarks. The hon. member was good enough, at the outset, to tell us that there were times in the lives of members when it was desirable to rise to the dignity of statesmen, and to abandon the attitude of the pleading lawyer. He applied that to the leader of the opposition (Mr. R. L. Borden) and expressed regret that that gentleman had not, for once in his life, risen to the dignity of a statesman, and then the hon. member for Hants (Mr. Russell) drew himself up with an air of no doubt honest pride and ambition, inflated his lungs and gave us for the next hour and a half what he was pleased to call an example of the dignity of a statesman. I am content to leave it to this House and the country to make a comparison between the two gentlemen and draw their own conclusions. Dealing with the meeting of shareholders of the Grand Trunk in the old country, he said, with reference to a statement that was made by the president, Sir Rivers-Wilson : Would it be supposed for a moment that any company would be held down by what an insignificant member of their corporation said ? Is that the position which he assigns to the president of that great company, Sir Rivers-Wilson, ' an -insignificant member of a corporation,' it seems to me that Sir Rivers-Wilson did not prove himself to be a very insignificant member when he was brought in contact with the friends of the hon. member for Hants (Mr. Russell) in the negotiations which he carried on so successfully during the eighteen months he said he was dealing with them. He went on to make some comparison about the opposition regarding their position as spurious but not to be given up without a fight. I may tell him that if I can judge public opinion, far from being spurious that position has taken a strong hold on the public sentiment of this country, neither to the advantage nor to the credit of hon. gentlemen opposite. I need not refer to the elections we have had recently which are un-mistakeable evidence of the sentiments of the great province of Ontario. The hon. member for Hants (Mr. Russell) closing remarks were that last year he had spoken at great length on this subject and that he never expected to occupy that position in this House again. He intimated then that he was giving us his valedictory address. I have no doubt he performed his part of the contract all right but unfortunately his friends did not deliver the goods and the Chief Justiceship of the Supreme Court is awaiting him for the future. Now he has given us another valedictory.

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Benjamin Russell

Liberal

Mr. RUSSELL.

I am afraid my hon. friend (Mr. Sproule) is drawing entirely on his imagination for his facts.

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An hon. MEMBER.

Take your medicine.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

I certainly drew that W; ference from the address of the hon- * be tleman that it would be the last one ,g would ever give on that subject, but e here again and was again obliged to [DOT] ^ to the defence of the government. said : Those of us who will be so fort' ^at as to come back, he certainly intimateo gC he did not expect to return to this **

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April 8, 1904