October 20, 1903

ALASKAN BOUNDARY COMMISSION.

CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. T. S. SPROULE (East Grey).

Before the Orders of the Day are called, I would draw the attention of the right hon. the First Minister to a despatch from New York stating that the Canadian commissioners refused to sign the award and that a cable

message was sent from the right hon. gentleman to England approving of their conduct. Has }ie any information to give the House ?

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The PRIME MINISTER (Rt. Hon. Sir Wilfrid Laurier).

I have information that the award is to be signed to-day at noon, and that it will not be unanimous. More than that I have none. It goes without saying nobody will suppose that I would presume to communicate with the commissioners regarding their line of conduct.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

In view of the despatch, I brought the matter to the notice of the right hon. gentleman.

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REGISTRAR OP THE SUPREME COURT.


House again in committee on Bill (No. 208) respecting the Registrar of the Supreme Court of Canada. {The Minister of Justice.)


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The MINISTER OP JUSTICE (Hon. Charles Fitzpatrick).

I propose that we reconsider clause 3, in order to meet the difficulty suggested by my hon. friend from Lanark (Hon. Mr. Haggart) with respect to the salary of the registrar. He suggested that the registrar might, under clause 3, continue to receive the $600 now paid to him. for editing the Supreme Court Report. In order to avoid that, I would suggest that section 3 be struck out, and another substituted in its place. I beg to move, therefore :

That section 3 of the said Bill be struck out and the following substituted :-

3. The registrar shall, subject to the direction of the Minister of Justice oversee and direct the officers, clerks and employees appointed to the Supreme Court. He shall give his full time to the public service and shall not receive any pay, fee or allowance in any form of excess of the amount provided in this Act.

4. The provisions with respect to his salary and the receipt of any pay, fee or allowance contained in the preceding sections shall not apply to the present registrar until the conclusion of his engagement as one of the commissioners for the revision of the statutes of Canada.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

Is the registrar not getting the $600 now ?

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The MINISTER OP JUSTICE.

He gets $2,600 as salary, and $600 on Order in Council for reporting the judgments of the court. This $600 is voted in the Appropriation Act The present Bill will not come into force until such time as the revision of the statutes is completed and his salary will remain as it is, namely $2,600 and $600. He is now in receipt besides of a salary of $1,200 for his work as one of the commissioners for revising the statutes. When that revision is completed, he will get the salary provided by this Bill.

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John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. Mr. HAGGART.

Will he continue to perform the same duties when he gets Mr. SPROULE.

the increase as he is paid $600 now for doing?

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The MINISTER OF JUSTICE.

Yes, he will perform all the duties.

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Amendment agreed to.


CON

John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. Mr. HAGGART.

What is the effect of section 2 ?

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The MINISTER OF JUSTICE.

It is the same provision as exists with respect to deputy ministers. His salary begins at $3,500, with an increase of $100 every year until it reaches $4,000. But every year he has been in office up to the present time counts. For instance, if he had been five years in office, when this Act comes into force, he will start at a maximum of $4,000. If he has been only four years in office he will start with $3,900, and so on.- As he was appointed in 1898, he has served the five years, and he will be entitled at once to the $4,000.

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John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. Mr. HAGGART.

I thought that under the Bill he was entitled to $3,500 now, his salary to be increased by $100 a year until he had reached a maximum of $4,000. But I find that under the hon. minister's interpretation he commences with $4,000.

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The MINISTER OF JUSTICE.

Let me try to make the position clear. He is entitled to $3,500 as salary to begin with, and he is entitled to annual increases of $100 a year until he reaches the maximum of $4,000. But, if he has served one, two, three or five years, that service will count for the1 purpose of increasing his salary. So, if he has served for two years his salary will be $3,700, if three years his salary will be $3,800 and so on. This is the general principle. But it is provided also that the Bill shall not become applicable to the registrar of the Supreme Court until such time as he shall cease to act as one of the commissioners for the revision of the statutes. So, until he has ceased to act in that capacity he will remain as at present, in receipt of a salary of $3,200.

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John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. Mr. HAGGART.

Then, this revision of the statute will be finished in about six months or a year.

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The MINISTER OF JUSTICE.

A year, I suppose.

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John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. Mr. HAGGART.

Then, he goes at once to the maximum of this Bill ?

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The MINISTER OF JUSTICE.

Yes.

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October 20, 1903