October 13, 1903

REPORT OF INSPECTOR OF BINDER TWINE.

LIB

James Moffat Douglas

Liberal

Mr. JAMES M. DOUGLAS (East Assini-boia) moved :

That the House do concur in the eighth and final report of the Select Standing Committee on Agriculture and Colonization and especially that 40,000 copies of the evidence of the inspector of binder twine lie printed forthwith in pamphlet form in the usual numerical proportions of English and French as advance sheets

of the committee's final report for distribution to members of parliament, less 100 copies for the use of the committee.

He sail : I may remark that this number is in excess of what has been asked on other subjects, but the report of the Dominion inspector has been of special interest. He provides information of vast moment in protecting the farmers against fraud in the quantity and quality of the twine they purchased as indicated in the consumption of the year 1902, valued at $3,500,000. The inspector stated in his evidence that in fourteen cases he imposed fines amounting to $518 for shortage in the quantity indicated by the labels, and had $275,000 worth deported to the manufacturer in the United States, and that a quantity was confiscated to the Crown. These violations of the Binder Twine Act of 1902 were almost wholly found with the imported article. The consumption of binder twine in Canada for 1902 is estimated at 14,000 tons, of which 6,500 was of home manufacture, making over 50 per cent supplied by importation. Here again is evidence of the large expansion awaiting the output of twine factories in Canada.

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LIB

Lawrence Geoffrey Power (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

May I call 'the attention of the hon. gentleman (Mr. Douglas) to the fact that this motion cannot be adopted without suspending rule 94, which provides that a motion for printing any paper shall first be presented to the Committee on Printing.

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James McCrie Douglas

Mr. DOUGDAS.

I move that rule 94 be suspended.

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CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. T. S. SPROULE (East Grey).

I do not actually oppose the adoption of the motion, but this report has been but a short time before the House and many of us have had no opportunity of seeing it. I do not know what the statement read by the Chairman of the committee purports to be, whether it is a report from the committee or part of the general report, or observations of his own. In any case, I must take exception to it because I think it is somewhat out of place or, at least, that the conclusions are still the subject of controversy. My judgment in connection with the discharge of his duties by the inspector of binder twine is that there was very strong evidence before the committee that the inspector misunderstood his duties and acted a part he was not justified in playing either by the statute under which he acted or any other authority, I think it would be well to allow this to remain for a day until we look into it.

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LIB

James Moffat Douglas

Liberal

Mr. DOUGLAS.

This report was presented last Friday, and notice of motion was given to the House that to-day I would move concurrence. Besides, the body of the report is in the Votes and Proceedings, and, if the hon. gentleman (Mr. Sproule) has not seen it, that is not the fault of the convener of the committee or the committee itself.

I may say that I have voiced the consensus of opinion of the committee in making the remarks I have made. The report was adopted by the unanimous consent of the committee and we thought it would he well to made a few remarks in connection with the presentation of the motion for concurrence so that it might be fully before the House.

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CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

This report has been before the House since Friday. On Saturday we sat all day, and the same yesterday. So, it is very hard to keep up with every portion of the work. Consequently I for one, have had no opportunity to see the report. 1 do not know whether the observations made by the hon. member (Mr. Douglas) were the result of the deliberations of the committee or not. If they were it seems to me they were improper. I think this should be allowed to remain over to another day to give us an opportunity to examine it. Surely there can be no such urgent demand for forcing it through. Saturday is an unusual day for the sitting of the House, so that this is pressing the matter through at practically one day's notice To allow it to remain for another day will not prevent the work being done, and will be quite in keeping with the needs of the House and of the country.

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The PRIME MINISTER.

I move the adjournment of the debate.

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LIB

Lawrence Geoffrey Power (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

It will then go to Public Bills and Orders.

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The PRIME MINISTER.

Better withdraw the motion.

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LIB

Lawrence Geoffrey Power (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

Is it the pleasure of the House that the hon. gentleman have leave to withdraw his motion ?

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Motion agreed to, and motion withdrawn.


THANKSGIVING DAY ADJOURNMENT-BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE.

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The PRIME MINISTER moved :

* That when this House adjourns to-morrow it shall stand adjourned till Friday next.

He said: I take advantage of this opportunity to say that the business that the government intends to present to the House yet is as follows : Some resolutions regarding the Quebec bridge, some further supplementary estimates, chiefly relating to the Transcontinental Railway ; and, perhaps, a purely departmental Bill.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

I assume from that statement that the other items appearing on the Order paper are intended to be pushed through by the government ?

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The PRIME MINISTER.

I think so.

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Motion agreed to.


YUKON TERRITORY-DOMINION LANDS -APPROVAL OP REGULATIONS.


The PRIME MINISTER (Rt. Hon. Sir Wilfrid Laurier) moved that the House go into Committee to consider the following proposed resolution : Resolved, that the regulations made by the Governor In Council, under the authority o* section 47 of the Dominion Lands Act, applicable or relating to the Yukon Territory, and set forth in the Orders in Council of which the dates are respectively as follows, and of which copies have been laid before this House, are approved by this House, in accordance with the provisions of section 5 of chapter 34 of the Statutes of 1902 :- Order dated the 15th April, 1902, P. C. No. 633 ; Orders dated the 19th May, 1902, P. C. Nos. 573, 597, 749, and 825 ; Orders dated the 21st May, 1902, P. C. Nos. 898, and 899 ; Orders dated the 31st May, 1902, P. C. Nos. 938, 941, and 960 ; Order dated 4th June, 1902, P. C. No. 619 ; Order dated the 31st October, 1902, P. C. No. 1606 ; Orders dated the 22nd December, 1902, P. C. Nos. 1890, and 1899 ; Orders dated the 7th March, 1903, P. C. Nos. 323, and 325 ; and Orders dated the 31st March, 1903, P. C. Nos. 472, 473, 474, and 475. He said : The reason for tills motion is to he found in the Act passed last session to amend the Yukon Territory Act. Section 5 of that Act provides as follows [DOT] Every regulation made by the Governor in Council under the authority of section 47 of the Dominion Lands Act, applicable or relating to the Yukon Territory, shall remain in force until the day immediately succeeding the day of prorogation of the then next session of parliament, and no longer, unless during such session of parliament such regulation is approved by resolution of both Houses of parliament. Then section 47 of the Dominion Lands Act reads as follows : Lands containing coal or other minerals, whether in surveyed or unsurveyed,territory, shall not be subject to the provisions of this Act respecting sale or homestead entries, but shall be disposed of in such manner and on such terms and conditions as are, from time to time, fixed by the Governor in Council, by regulations made in that behalf. Several regulations have been made which were laid on the Table of tbe House a few days ago, in terms of that section 47. I need not perhaps go into the details of each one of them ; a synopsis of the details of some of them will give a general character of the whole. The first Order in Council which was passed on the 15th of April, 1902, provides in substance that three miners owning adjoining claims, may unite to work one claim. The reason of that is that under the old regulation, every miner owning a claim is bound to do a certain quantity of work on it, under penalty of forfeiture, and it has been found convenient to permit a group of miners to work together ; that is to say, when their claims are adjoining each other it might be advantageous to al-Sir WILFRID LAURIER. low them to club together and put their work upon one claim instead of distributing it upon all, and by so doing they would avoid forfeiture. Another Order in Council passed on the 19th of May, defines a miner's inch. The miner's inch is a new expression with which we in the east are not familiar, but which in mining territories is now well known, and we propose simply to make it legal and give it a proper definition. Another Order in Council of the same date enacts that all applications for mining locations and for work by the hydraulic mining process, shall be filed with tbe Commissioner of the Yukon Territory, and recommended by him, and so on.


CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. T. S. SPROULE (East Grey).

In connection with that, I presume it would be necessary to bring up the whole subject of the controversy and investigation into the Treadgold concessions, because some of those Orders in Council affect the situation there. One which the Prime Minister just read would apply to that, namely, that one giving them the privilege to group together a number of claims, of which they become possessed perhaps through the abandonment of others, or through taking up others and jointly working them. I see they have had a public meeting out there and protested against the mode of the inquiry that was conducted by the commission, and are memorializing, it seems, the Governor in Council against the way the inquiry was conducted. Could the Prime Minister give us any information regarding the situation, and has he any report from the commissioners on the work they have undertaken ?

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October 13, 1903