October 1, 1903

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

Altogtlier Canadian, so my chief engineer informs me. I shall get the information and bring it down.

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Edward Frederick Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE.

The names of the partners -and where the headquarters are 7

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Thomas Inkerman Thomson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. THOMSON (Grey).

Is Mr. Connolly or Captain Sullivan in that company ?

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

Not that I am aware of. I know nothing directly or indirectly, but they may be.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN (Halifax).

Does the department know whether or not the deepening of the Mission river will result in lengthening the season during which grain can be carried from Fort William and Port Arthur to the Georgian bay ports 7 Last year 1 went to the mouth of the Mission river in a tug boat, and it was pointed out to me that the opening of the river and the nse of the new -channel created in that way would result in lengthening the season by ten or twelve days.

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

Representations have been made to the department that that would be the result, but the chief engineer will not take the responsibility of endorsing them. When we have these surveys completed, we will have more definite information to work on.

Mr. THOMSON (Grey), I understand that the hon. minister has promised to bring down the names of those who were in the firm, where their headquarters are and who are connected with this Great Lake Dredging Company.

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

Yes.

Kingston graving dock-to pay amount of award made in favour of contractors Connolly & Co., by Mr. Justice Burbidge, July 2, 1896, under Orders in Council of January 29, and May 7, 1896, together with price of steam derrick purchased from said firm, interest thereon to be paid at the same rates as that received by the government on their counter claims against Connolly & Co., $46,096.12.

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

I found that Connolly & Company had several claims against the government and the government also had claims against them, some of them under judgment. This vote really represents some $5,000 or $0,000, being the difference between the amount which Connolly & Company owe the government and the government Connolly & Company. As I understand it, the position the Auditor General took was that the so-called judgment against us that Connolly had was an award of the judge of the Exchequer Court, and not a judgment, and that it was still at the discretion of parliament to pay the amount of that award or not. This matter has been standing for a long time, and I thought it unfair both to Mr. Connolly and the department, that these claims should remain so long. I referred the matter to the officials of the department, and they arranged with the Auditor General and the Finance Department aud all matters between the government and Mr. Connolly were adjusted, the balance being something between $5,000 and $6,000. The reason I cannot give the exact amount is that the Finance Department objected paying the interest that Connolly claimed, the award -or judgment, as he called it-of the Exchequer Court carried with it. I believe it was finally decided that on the judgments that we had against Connolly and the amounts due to him the rate of interest should be t ho same. This item is put in the way the Auditor General and the Finance Department worded it. So, I cannot give, to a few dollars, exactly what the difference would be, but it will not be more than I have stated. Practically we are voting this to ourselves.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN (Halifax).

Why does not the hon. minister take a vote only for the amount to be paid ?

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN (Halifax).

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

Because the Auditor General objected to having it that way, and I am anxious to meet his views.

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

The principal amount due to Connolly is m connection with the Kingston graving dock, and the principal judgment we have against Connolly is in connection with the Quebec harbour works. And' there is another in the hands of the Justice Department, in connection with some security given by Connolly for some person.

Transportation facilities-Port Colborne improvements-South-east breakwater, $25,000.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN (Halifax).

This item will involve considerable discussion.

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

There will be another item with relation to this work.

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Edward Frederick Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE.

And the subject of this item can be discussed when the other comes up ?

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

Yes, if hon. gentlemen wish it.

Some resolutions reported.

The MINISTER OF FINANCE moved the adjournment of the House.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN (Halifax).

, What business will be taken up on Monday ?

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The MINISTER OF FINANCE.

We shall proceed with supply. ;

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Motion agreed to, and House adjourned at 10.30 p.m.


October 1, 1903