August 4, 1903

LIB

Lawrence Geoffrey Power (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

It is moved by Mr. Monk that the report of the evidence and proceedings of the committee be referred to the Joint Committee on Printing of parliament.

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LIB

Fletcher Bath Wade

Liberal

Mr. WADE.

Would it not be more in order to reserve that motion until there has been a motion for concurrence in the report.

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Motion agreed to.


CON

Frederick Debartzch Monk

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MONK.

I now give notice that I intend to move that the said report be not adopted, but that the draft reports marked ' B,' drawn in the following terms, be adopted and laid on the Table of the House.

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OFFICIAL REPORT OF DEBATES.

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Mr. L. N.@

CHAMPAGNE (Wright) moved that the House do now concur in the sixth report of the select committee appointed to supervise the official reports of the debates of the House.

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The PRIME MINISTER.

I would ask my hon. friend to allow this motion to stand as the Minister of Finance is not present.

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LIB

Louis Napoléon Champagne

Liberal

Mr. CHAMPAGNE.

There is an amendment to be proposed to a clause in the report which we might dispose of.

Motion withdrawn.

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FIRST READINGS.


Bill (No. 228) for the relief of Stephen Wilson.-Mr. Wade. Bill (No. 229) for the relief of Ellen Mc-Dermid.-Mr. Wade.


INDEPENDENCE OF PARLIAMENT MR. LOY, M.P.

LIB

Fletcher Bath Wade

Liberal

Mr. WADE.

I beg to move that the second report of the select standing Committee on Privileges and Elections ba concurred in.

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CON

Frederick Debartzch Monk

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MONK.

I take the point of order that this motion cannot be made the day the report is received.

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LIB

Lawrence Geoffrey Power (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER.

Under ordinary circumstances the point of order would be well taken, but we must not forget that we are dealing with a question of privilege, and in such questions no notice is required.

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CON

Frederick Debartzch Monk

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MONK.

This is not a question of privilege but a question of concurring in the report of the committee which has just been laid on the Table. I submit that a motion to adopt that report, made five minutes after the report was laid on the Table, is out of order.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN (Halifax).

The rule you have laid down, Mr. Speaker, would enable the committee to proceed without giving notice to its members. A question of privilege may be brought to the attention of the House without previous notice for the very good reason that it must be placed before the House at the earliest opportunity, but when once brought before the House then the subsequent proceeding must follow the ordinary rule. Otherwise it would be absolutely impossible to deal with the matter in the committee or in the House upon any intelligible or reasonable basis.

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The PRIME MINISTER.

In matters of privilege the rules of the House are suspended, and they may be sprung on the House

without notice, but I would suggest that this motion be held over and the discussion adjourned.

On motion of Mr. Champagne, the debate was adjourned.

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FISHERY RIGHTS OF DOMINION AND PROVINCES.

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES (Hon. R. I'refontaine) moved :

That an order of the House do issue for a memorandum on the status of the question of fishery rights between the federal and the provincial governments.

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Motion agreed to.


August 4, 1903