July 15, 1903

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Uriah Wilson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WILSON.

I will speak just as long as I like. I suppose I have the same rights as anybody else in this House and when I want information to get up and ask for it. I would like to ask the hon. minister if a successor lias been appointed to Mr. Devlin in Dublin and if there is wh'at bis salary is to be and whether he is to be furnished with a house as Mr. Devlin was. I should like to know why a house was furnished, to the agent in Dublin and not to the agent at London. Then, I see that we have Mr. G. B. Smart, inspector of pauper children at a salary of $1,400 ai year. I do>

not know what his duties are. I do not know where the pauper Children come from. Then, I see that there is Mr. Corry

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The MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR.

If the hon. gentleman wants these questions answered he will have to ask one at a time as my memory is short.

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Uriah Wilson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WILSON.

Has there been a successor appointed to Mr. Devlin, if so at what salary and is there to be a free house furnished him ?

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The MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR.

The position of agent at Dublin is now being filled by Mr. W. Webster, who was formerly in the service, with a salary of $1,500. He was formerly Mr. Devlin's assistant. He is now in the same place and no. successor has been appointed to Mr. Devlin.

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Uriah Wilson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WILSON.

Would the hon. minister tell us what Mr. Smart's duties are ?

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The MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR.

There is an arrangement under which pauper children who from time to time are sent out under the direction of the board of trade are inspected and the board of trade pays the cost of the inspection. The board of trade asks us to provide an inspector who shall go from place to place and see the children who are placed with farmers in different parts of Canada. The inspection is required to be a personal and careful examination, so that the inspector goes there, sees the child and ascertains bow he is getting along. It is the business of this inspector to make this inspection.

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Uriah Wilson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WILSON.

Does the board of trade pay him ?

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The MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR.

The report goes to the board of trade and the expense are paid by it.

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Charles Avila Wilson

Liberal

Mr. WTLSON.

Well then there is Mr. Corry, inspector with a salary of $2,400.

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The MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR.

Mr. Corry is not an officer of the Immigration Department.

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The MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR.

Yes. Mr. White is travelling inspector of agencies in the United States.

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Uriah Wilson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WILSON.

Mr. W. J. White drew a salary of $2,200 ; for board and lodging, $807 ; for railway fare, $614 ; for pullman cars, $403 ; and we appear to have paid $14.75 for his washing. Why should we pay for his washing ?

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The MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR.

Mr. White is travelling inspector of agencies in the western states, and he is practically on the road all the time. He puts in his bill and he expects it to be paid. The expenses are audited and we have no reason to think that they are excessive.

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Uriah Wilson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WILSON.

Do you pay the laundry bills of all your agents ?

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The MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR.

The rule is that we pay all expenses that are incurred when the officers are away from home. I do not know what the rule is about the laundry, but if the hon. gentleman desires I will bring down that information to-morrow.

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Uriah Wilson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WILSON.

I would like to have that because there is another gentleman here with a laundry bill of $31.40, and we do not seem to pay the laundry bills of all these officers. The annual report of the department for 1902 shows that there came from the United States 26,388 immigrants, and Mr. Smart brought down to the Committee on Agriculture a report showing that the salaried agents sent to this country 23,781 immigrants, and that the agents on commission sent 3,822 immigrants which would make a total of 27,543 from the United States, or 1,155 more than the annual report shows. What is the explanation of that discrepancy ?

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The MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR.

My deputy informs me that he was asked to make out a statement showing the number of persons that were sent by each agent and he compiled that from the reports of the agents. The number stated in the annual report is the number reported by the immigration commissioner at Winnipeg. The number counted by the officers on the trains would naturally be slightly different from the approximate statement made from the agents' reports. The hon. gentleman must understand that difference without any explanation.

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Uriah Wilson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WILSON.

The hon. gentleman should give an explanation of the discrepancy. The figures furnished by his deputy ought to be reliable.

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The MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR.

I have given the explanation.

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July 15, 1903