June 10, 1903

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

The hon. gentleman is a little mistaken in that. There lias been no removal of Canadian exhibits from the Imperial Institute that I am aware of.

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Samuel Hughes

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. HUGHES (Victoria).

Then what does the hon. minister say lias been done V

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

Provision lias been made in the city to make exhibits of a temporary character. For instance, for a couple of weeks, or three weeks, an exhibit of canned goods will be made and the canned goods trade will be invited to come That will be taken away and then there will be an exhibit of dressed poultry, then an exhibit of Canadian butter and cheese, then an exhibit of Canadian hams and bacon, or whatever there might happen to lie available which could be effectively exhibited for the purpose of attracting attention (o our Canadian products. That lias never been done

in the Imperial Institute at all. It would be ineffective and the institute Would not be suitable for an exhibition of that kind. But, I am satisfied if arrangements can be made in the city such as we are talking of, that effective work of that kind can lie done. In consequence of the transference of the Imperial Institute from the old board of management to the board of trade, delay has taken place. The discussion lasted for two years until recently when -I received a communication from Lord Stratheona that the official transference had been made, but I do not know ns yet what the new arrangements are which have been put in force. Until we know what they are we cannot formulate any plan in regard to making an exhibit.

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James Clancy

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLANCY.

Has the hon. gentleman any report from Lord Stratheona of the plans adopted by the institute ? The hon. gentleman will see the perfect uselessness of voting money, not because wre are indisposed to vote that money, but it does seem a waste of money and a waste of time to drag a matter of that kind along for the time during which it has been dragging. I would like the hon. gentleman to say what contributions have been made to the Imperial Institute, and from what quarter support has been given. We are paying now the small sum of S3,000. The sum, I may say again, is not worth discussing in that light, but it is important if we are to have an institute of that kind, that it shall perform good work.

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

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James Clancy

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLANCY.

What is the nature of the articles of Canadian produce or manufacture ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

The exhibits are chiefly in minerals and forestry. The agricultural exhibits were not in sufficiently good condition at the end of these exhibitions to be available, and we propose to prepare and send over specially during this season a number of agricultural exhibits for erection and establishment: in the Imperial Institute. But, I do not feel that I can make any definite plans in regard to our exhibit there until I know what the arrangements are which the new management intend to carry out. I have received information from Lord Stratheona of the official transference and with that infor-

mation he gives me an outline of the management and organization under the board of trade, but no definite information as to any plans that may have been worked out in regard to the exhibits themselves. I will have to communicate with him and get information in regard to that: before I can formulate any definite plans.

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James Clancy

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLANCY.

Can the hon. gentleman say what contributions have been made other than those made by Canada towards the support of that institution ?

The MINISTER OF AGRICULT UltH. The other colonies, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and some of the smaller dependencies have exhibits in the Imperial Institute and they contribute towards its support. Our own provinces have been contributing regularly every year out of which the maintenance of their exhibits is paid for and also the payment of the salary of the Canadian curator, Mr. Harrison Watson with a small contribution additionally which I made last year to Ills salary.

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James Clancy

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLANCY.

That is not what I asked the hon. gentleman. I was aware, of course, that the colonies have each undertaken that. It has been stated that there has been a gradual falling off in these contributions. We have been contributing a small sum for many years. Can the minister state what sums are being contributed from all the other sources ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

The contribution from Canada has been rather smaller than from other colonies in proportion to our wealth and importance. Speaking from memory, the contribution of the provinces amounts to something like $2,500 a year.

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Frederick Debartzch Monk

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MONK.

Have we to pay this sum each year ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

We are only pledged for this year, and that pledge is a conditional one.

Tracadie Lazaretto, $5,500.

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James Clancy

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLANCY.

Is this institution doing a useful work which warrants this vote every year ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

This is a work of absolute necessity. It was established before confederation, and was taken over by the Dominion government from the province of New Brunswick. The patients are not confined to the province of New Brunswick, and there are at present twenty patients. It is a curious fact that the number has varied very little for many years.

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James Clancy

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLANCY.

It has been stated in the press that a great number of them were Chinamen.

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Sydney Arthur Fisher (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Hon. Mr. FISHER.

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

I do not think that there is a single Chinaman there, or that there has been. There are some in the Lazaretto in British Columbia, but that is not under my department. Most of the patients from Tracadie come from the lower provinces, but on one or two occasions lepers have been sent from the west.

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James Clancy

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLANCY.

Is it not the duty of the province to look after these lepers ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

I do not think there is any obligation on the Dominion to take charge of lepers except those in the maritime provinces. I will not speak positively as to the legal aspect of the question.

Public works-Health Act, $4,000.

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James Clancy

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLANCY.

What is this ?

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June 10, 1903