May 19, 1903

SAFETY OF SHIPS.


The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES (Hon. R. Prefontaine) moved for leave to introduce Bill (No. 179) to amend the Act respecting safety of ships.


CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. D. BORDEN (Halifax).

What is the object of the Bill ?

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The MINISTER OF MARINE AND FISHERIES.

It is simply to make the Canadian law the same as the English law-regarding deck loads. It is purely a technical matter.

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Motion agreed to, and Bill read the first time. ,


TREADGOLD CONCESSION.

CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. R. L. BORDEN (Halifax).

Before the Orders of the Day are called, I would like to bring to the attention of the right hon. gentleman the Prime Minister, a telegram which I have received from Dawson : ' Official organ says committee has been appointed to investigate Treadgold,' and the inquiry is made as to whether or not this statement is correct. Would the right hon. gentleman inform the House ?

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The PRIME MINISTER (Rt. Hon. Sir Wilfrid Laurier).

The statement is premature, but the commission will go in a very few days.

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THIRD READING.


Bill (No. 17) to aid in the settlement of railway labour disputes.-Sir William Mulock.


SUPPLY-ATLANTIC AND LAKE SUPERIOR RAILWAY.


The MINISTER OF FINANCE (Hon. W. S. Fielding) moved that the House again go into Committee of Supply.


LIB
LIB

Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Sir WILFRID LAURIER.

material, board, &c., to send in their claims in the form of affidavits. These have been received, and the aggregate for thirty miles of road is $226,276.88. We are now placed in this position-we have to distribute $16,000 among creditors to the extent of over $226,000. The proportion is so small that I am going to ask the government to change this last clause of the subsidy so as to begin to pay the labourers who are still in possession of their time checks, the labourers who have not sold their claim on the road, so that we may pay them at least fifty cents on the dollar If not -more. But I wish to go further and ask the government, when they will take up the new claims of the Atlantic and Lake Superior to remember that these trustees, represented by Mr. Joquin Galindey, advanced money to the Atlantic and Lake Superior Railway and the guarantee that they have since 1900 been in possession of one hundred miles of railway which they are working for their own advantage and benefit, whereas the men who built the road, the farmers who gave the right of way, the men who supplied the material and the men who boarded the employees remain unpaid; so that if any money leaves the Dominion exchequer for this Atlantic and Lake Superior Railway or the trustees thereof, the government should take upon itself to pay the men who built the line and not pay the trustees who have taken possession of the road, and thus guaranteed their own advances. I believe that I need say no more, except that I wish to thank the right lion, the premier (Rt. Hon. Sir Wilfrid Laurier) and the lion. Minister of Railways (Hon. Mr. Blair) for the great trouble they have gone to in the effort to bring order out of chaos in the affairs of this road. And, before I resume my seat I very humbly request the government, before granting this additional application of the trustees of the Atlantic and Lake Superior Railway :

1. That the Department of Railways and Canals ascertain by means of a public circular the amount due on the Baie des Chaleurs and Atlantic and Dake Superior Railway from Meta-pedia to Caplin, for right of way, labour, board, material, damage, &e.

2. That all -circular payments to the trustees of the Atlantic and Lake Superior Railway be withheld until their line of railway has been placed in a proper condition, that suitable fences have been erected on the whole road and that the section from New Carlisle to Paspebiac has been completed and is operated and that the road-bed is improved, unsafe wooden bridges and trestles replaced by proper constructions.

3. That any additional subsidy granted this railway besides that of $3,200 per mile for thirty miles from Caplin to Paspebiac authorized by chapter 7, Ed. VII., be applied by the government itself to the payment of debts due on the railway for right of way, hoard, material, construction and operation; that the trustees of these bondholders being in possession of the road and being therefore guaranteed for their advances and benefiting by its operation and by

the work of unpaid labour, material, &c., of other creditors should mot share in this additional subsidy.

4. That if a double subsidy of $6,400 per mile on the thirty miles of road amounting to $96,000 be granted on the application by Joquin Galin-dey and of the trustees or any other of said trustees, or of the Atlantic and Lake Superior Company, or any sum or part thereof, that said sum be applied by the Department of Railways and Canals to the payment of the unsecured creditors mentioned above.

5. That the trustees or the company itself have no right to claim additional subsidies for work which has not been paid by them and which according to the sworn claims produced with the Department of Railways and Canals exceed $220,000 for thirty miles of the line only.

6. That legislation be asked for by the Government during the present session if necessary to authorize the Department of Railways and Canals to pay to the unsecured creditors any subsidy granted to this road in addition to that of $3,200 per mile mentioned in section 9 chapter 7, 1 Ed. VII.

7. That the balance of the original subsidy of $96,000 voted in section 9, chapter 7, 1 Ed. VII. not already paid or reserved for payment of labour, board and material be withheld until the line of railway has been put into proper condition as indicated above.

I believe both sides of the House will agree with me that what I ask in most reasonable. These claims are due to poor people, for the most part labourers and farmers who have suffered through the construction of this Baie des Chaleurs Railway to such an extent that it has become a by-word in the railway history of the Dominion. During the last fifteen or sixteen years, the county of Bonaventnre has gone through a crisis probably unparelleled in Canada; and I hope that before any more money leaves the Dominion exchequer for the purposes of this road, the government will see to it that the people who have built this road shall be first paid before any other payments are made by the Crown or by the department.

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The MINISTER OF RAILWAYS AND CANALS (Hon. A. G. Blair).

I assure my hon. friend (Mr. Marcil, Bona venture) that the matter shall have consideration.

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INTERCOLONIAL RAILWAY-WINDSOR JUNCTION ACCIDENT.

CON

Edward Frederick Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. E. F. CLARKE (West Toronto).

I wish to ask the Minister of Railways and Canals if it is his Intention to lay on the Table the evidence that will be taken in the investigation held into the cause of the accident at Windsor Junction on the Intercolonial Railway ?

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The MINISTER OF RAILWAYS AND CANALS.

I had not thought of it, but if the ho.ii. gentleman (Mr. Clarke) desires it, I shall be very glad to do so.

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CLASSIFICATION OF FREIGHT.

May 19, 1903