May 18, 1903

CON

Matthew Henry Cochrane

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. COCHRANE.

We are not supposing anything. But the understanding in the committee was that they had power under the Bill to take the water out of the river for the purposes of the company. If not, what use is the Bill ?

Mr. McCarthy.

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The MINISTER OF RAILWAYS AND CANALS.

They have not the power to divert or deflect the river.

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CON

Matthew Henry Cochrane

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. COCHRANE.

I did not say they had. But they might so diminish the quantity in the river that it might be useless for a part of the section of the country through which it flows.

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LIB

John Charlton

Liberal

Mr. CHARLTON.

Under section 7, of the Act, it provides that ' The company may draw from rivers and other waters, the waters necessary for the purposes of the company.' That is rather unlimited power.

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The MINISTER OF RAILWAYS AND CANALS.

I have not read the whole Bill, and I think it did not come before the Railway Committee.

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CON

Matthew Henry Cochrane

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. COCHRANE.

No, it came before the Committee on Miscellaneous Private Bills.

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The MINISTER OF RAILWAYS AND CANALS.

The Railway Committee had a Bill of this kind before it a year or two ago, and I think we went into it pretty carefully, and provided what we thought were the necessary safeguards. I cannot answer for this Bill, for I had not seen the Bill until this moment. I can see that some of the clauses, as for instance, clause 0, would need to be materially altered. But I do not see any objection to the conferring of powers given under section 4.

On section 5,

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LIB

Peter Macdonald (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER.

This section has been amended so as to read as follows :

The company may acquire and dispose of lands in the district within which the company is authorized to operate, provided that the total quantity of land to he held by the company at any one time shall not exceed two thousand square miles.

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The MINISTER OF RAILWAYS AND CANALS.

Not referring to the quantity of land-I do not know whether two thousand square miles would be deemed an excessive quantity or not-it is to be noted that this company asks to be incorporated for irrigation purposes and not to be created with the powers of a land company. But under this clause they would be authorized to deal in lands. Certainly, the section is defective in that way. It ought to be provided that the company may acquire the lands necessary for the purposes for which the company is authorized, and may dispose of lands which it does not require for those purposes. We always give such power.

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CON

Matthew Henry Cochrane

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. COCHRANE.

I would say to the minister that it goes a good deal further

than that, as I understand it. The promoters say that there are lands higher than the waters to be taken by the company would enable them to irrigate. They want to get control of all the lands ; then, they could irrigate a certain portion of every lot-say fifteen, twenty or thirty acres for each two hundred acre lot-thus providing an area in which cereals and vegetables could be grown, but enabling them to sell the whole lot.

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CON

John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. Mr. HAGGART.

I would say to my hon. friend that I think I understand the object of the Bill. It is for the purpose of irrigating a section of land which was granted to a railway company from Lethbridge to the boundary, of which Mr. Gault was the proprietor. A portion of that land was sold to the Mormon settlement near Milk river. They have irrigation works there which are a credit to the North-west Territories and a benefit to the people, and the land there is flourishing now in consequence. This company was formed to take over the rest of the land for the purpose of irrigating it and selling it to the actual settlers. The object of the company seems to be a bona fide one, and a worthy one. namely, the development of that section of the country. I cannot understand what objection there can be to the Bill. It is clear from what I understand, that the object of the Bill is to authorize the taking over of these lands which were granted to this coal company of which Mr. Gault was the president. an English company, for the purpose of irrigating that portion of the land and selling it to actual settlers. The land as it is now is entirely worthless, but when irrigated it will become valuable, and will be sold to settlers. As my hon. friend says, the promoter of the Bill ought to be here to explain it to us. We know nothing about it, and we have a right to explanations.

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Peter Macdonald (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

Mr. DEPUTY SPEAKER.

The promoter of the Bill (Mr. Oliver) is sick in hospital, and has been for some weeks.

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The MINISTER OF JUSTICE.

In the absence of the promoter of the Bill, I think the committee had better rise.

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Motion agreed to, and progress reported.


CONSIDERED IN COMMITTEE-THIRD READINGS.


Bill (No. 88) respecting the Mutual Fire Insurance Company of the city of Montreal, and to change its name to ' The Montreal and Quebec Fire Insurance Company.-Mr. LaRiviere. Bill (No. 90) respecting the Niagara-Well-and Power Company, Limited, and to change its name to ' The Niagara-Welland Power Company.'-Mr. Guthrie. Bill No. 91) to incorporate the Dominion Gas Improvement Company.-Mr. Belcourt. Bill (No. 92) respecting the Dominion Burglary Guarantee Company, Limited, and to change its name to ' The Dominion Guarantee Company, Limited.'-Mr. Bickerdike.


QUESTIONS.

POST OFFICE AT L'ASSOMPTION.

May 18, 1903