May 18, 1903

FIRST READING.


Bill (No. 177) respecting the Klondike Mines Railway Company.-Mr. Mclsaac.


BRITISH-COLONIAL PREFERENTIAL TRADE.

CON

Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. T. S. SPROULE (East Grey).

Mr. Speaker, before the Orders of the Day are Mr. BORDEN (Halifax).

proceeded with, I wish to ask the Prime Minister a question. In a notable speech made a day or two ago by the Right Hon. Joseph Chamberlain, the following appears, according to a despatch in the Ottawa ' Citizen ' :

The colonial secretary proceeded strongly to urge the necessity in order to preserve the great empire that the trade of the colonies should be secured. Canada had offered exceptional advantages, he said, which Great Britain did not dare accept because of the narrow interpretation of the doctrine of free trade, the policy of dictation, and interference by foreign powers, Mr. Chamberlain said he was Justified by the belief that Great Britain was so wedded to its fiscal system that it could not defend its colonies. This was a position not intended by the pioneers of free trade who, if they were alive to-day would agree to a treaty of preference and reciprocity with the empire's children. The speaker said he believed that an entirely wrong interpretation had been placed upon the doctrine of free trade but that the_country ought not to be bound by this and it should not hesitate to resort to retaliation if necessary wherever the interests between colonies and the home country were threatened.

The Right Hon. Mr. Chamberlain refers to two things : first, that Canada had made very exceptional offers to England in regard to a mutual preferential trade ; the other is that England desires to defend her colonies in case of their being attacked commercially by foreign countries. I wish to ask the government if they are prepared to lay a memorandum of these offers on the Table of the House or to take the Canadian parliament into their confidence, and give us information as to what these offers were? That I think we are entitled to. I also wish to ask whether any correspondence is being carried on with the imperial government with regard to the threatened action of Germany ; and, if so, are the government prepared to give this House any information regarding it ?

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The MINISTER OF FINANCE (Hon. W. S. Fielding).

In answer to the first portion of my hon. friend's question, I may say that we have already taken the House into our confidence on the subject, for the offer which was made to the British government of a further preference as between British and foreign manufactures, is published in the Conference Blue-book as an imperial paper, to which access is easily had, and the memo, was fully read by myself in the budget speech. My hon. friend will find in that speech the offer we made the imperial authorities at the colonial conference.

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The MINISTER OF FINANCE.

Yes. With regard to the second part of my hon. friend's question, we have had no recent correspondence with the imperial government on the action of Germany.

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IS, 1903

LIB

John Charlton

Liberal

Mr. .T. CHARLTON (North Norfolk).

I would ask whether the attention of the government has been called to the alleged intention of the German government to unload upon this country a supply of ex-convicts ? The action recently taken by the United States with regard to the deportation of criminals followed by this report that the German government intends sending this class of immigrants to Canada, impels me to ask whether the government are giving the subject any attention.

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The PRIME MINISTER (Rt. Hon. Sir Wilfrid Laurier).

We have received no official information that the German authorities contemplate any such policy. If we found that the German authorities were attempting such a policy, we would take immediate action to repeal it. My impression is that we have sufficient power, under existing laws, to deal with such a question, but if our powers should not be adequate, we shall have no hesitation in asking parliament to supplement them.

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PRIVATE BILLS.

NEW CANADIAN COMPANY, LIMITED.


House in committee on Bill (No. S3) to incorporate the New Canadian Company, Limited.-Sir. Lemieux. On section 1,


CON

John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. Mr. HAGGART.

What is the necessity of declaring that this work is for the general advantage of Canada ?

MfV LEMIEUX. The company intend establishing a steamship company whose steamers will ply between England and Gaspe.

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John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. Mr. HAGGART.

Although this is said to be a foreign company, I do not see the necessity of our declaring that this work is for the general advantage of Canada.

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LIB

Rodolphe Lemieux

Liberal

Mr. LEMIEUX.

I have consulted the officers of the Department of Justice on that point. The Bill had already passed the House and was referred back, at the request of the hon. Minister of Justice, in order that some informalities might be remedied. The officers of the department gave No. 53 Vic., Chap. 104, and 84 Vic., Chap. 186, as precedents for this very clause, in the case of other English companies doing business in this country.

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John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. Mr. HAGGART.

The declaration may be necessary to bring under the jurisdiction of the Dominion a work which would (otherwise ibe purely local or provincial. But 1 do not think that it is at all necessary that we should assume all the jurisdictions and powers of a local government even to grant a charter to a corporation to do this particular kind of work.

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The MINISTER OF RAILWAYS AND CANALS (Hon. A. G. Blair).

There were txvo considerations that entered into the matter in connection with this declaration when the Bill was before the Railway Commission. In the first place, the company is given power to carry on an ocean steamship business to foreign ports, and it was thought that possibly a question might be raised as to the power of this parliament lo pass such legislation. Therefore this clause was inserted. There is also a clause providing for the construction of tramways and other works, which come within the general definition of railways in the Railway Act.

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CON

John Graham Haggart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. Mr. HAGGART.

Are these supplementary to the powers the company has ns a corporation in Great Britain ? If I understand rightly, this Bill gives them all the powers they have as a corporated company in Great Britain, plus the large powers.

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The MINISTER OF RAILWAYS AND CANALS.

I do not think it gives them all the powers they have obtained under the English Act.

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May 18, 1903