May 10, 1902

CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN (Halifax).

I object to this if it is regarded as carrying out the understanding upon which the motion of my hon. friend from Yarmouth (Mr. Flint) passed last night. I do not consider that the parties would be in exactly the same position if they are not here when counsel are addressing the committee in favour of the Bill. If counsel are here in the absence of one side the parties are not in the position in which they should be placed. I would not have permitted the motion to pass last night without further discussion, if I had

not distinctly under-stood that the people interested would have an opportunity of coining before the committee. Under the arrangements proposed, the Bill would be heard partly in the absence of those interested in opposing it. The Minister of Marine and Fisheries seems to think that is all right, but his colleague (Hon. Mr. Sifton) sitting alongside of him, will tell him that if anything of that kind were proposed in a court of law, it would be laughed at. This inquiry before the committee is really a judicial inquiry, and, as in other judicial inquiries, you must have the parties before you.

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The PRIME MINISTER.

If my hou. friend (Mr. Borden, Halifax) thinks that the understanding was that the matter should not be taken up until Monday, then, let the Bill stand until Monday.

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CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN (Halifax).

I think that would be better.

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Louis Philippe Demers

Liberal

Mr. L. P. DEMERS (St. John and Iberville).

(Translation.) Mr. Speaker, I think that this measure is opposed by some members on very strong grounds. If you refer to clause 2 of the Bill, you will find what its object is :

2. The objects and powers of the association shall-be to promote by all lawful means the practice of accountancy, and for the said purposes :

(a) To hold such examinations as may be found expedient ;

(b) To grant certificates of efficiency to its

members ; .

(c) To establish classes of membership ;

(d) To determine the rights, privileges, terms and conditions of said classes.

As I understand it, this Bill is of an educational character, and as such, it is not within the purview of the powers of parliament, as the subject if education is relegated to provincial authorities.

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Motion agreed to, Bill.read the second time, and referred to the Committee on Private Bills, to be considered on Monday.


CONSIDERED IN COMMITTEE-THIRD READINGS.


Bill (No. 89) to incorporate the _ Canada Central Railway Company.-Mr. Scott. Bill (No. 125) to amend the Acts relating to the Ottawa Northern and Western Railway.-Mr. Champagne.


SECOND READINGS.


Bill (No. 148) respecting the Montreal Bridge Company.-Mr. Maclaren (Huntingdon). Bill (No. 158) to incorporate the Union Life Assurance Company.-Mr. Ingram. * Bill (No. 144) to incorporate the Metropolitan Bank.-Mr. Belcourt. Bill (No. 163) for the relief of Samuel Nelson Chipman-Mr. Flint-on division. Bill (No. 166) to incorporate the Securities Bank of Canada.-Mr. Calvert. Bill (No. 167) respecting the Royal Marine Insurance Company.-Mr. Marcil (Bona-venture).


MANITOBA GRAIN ACT AMENDMENT.


The MINISTER OF TRADE AND COMMERCE (Hon. Sir Richard Cartwright) moved the third reading of Bill (No. 162) to amend the Manitoba Grain Act, 1900.


CON

Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BOUDEN (Halifax).

Were not some suggested amendments to be dealt with V

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The MINISTER OF TRADE AND COM. MERCE.

Yes, I was looking over the amendments proposed by the hon. member for Macdonald (Mr. Boyd). Though I shall endeavour to induce the railway companies to comply with the suggestions as to the posting of prices of grain at railway stations, I have come to the conclusion that it would imperil the whole progress of the Bill if we put in any more amendments at tills moment. I am anxious to get the measure to the Senate and have it considered there. They have had full notice of the amendments I proposed, but not of those proposed yesterday. However, I have made note of them and will endeavour to meet the views of the hon. gentleman later on.

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Motion agreed to, Bill r ad the third time, and passed.


REPRESENTATION OF THE YUKON.


Bill (No. 81) to Incorporate the Canadian Northern Telegraph Company.-Mr. Davis. Bill (No. 130) respecting the Algoma Central and Hudson Bay Railway Company.- Mr. Dynient. Bill (No. 131) respecting the Manitoulin and North Shore Railway Company.-Mr. Dyment Bill (No. 143) respecting the Bell Telephone Company of Canada-Mr. Belcourt. Bill (No. 55) respecting the Lake Erie and Detroit River Railway Company.-Mr. Sutherland (Essex). Bill (No. 87) respecting the Quebec Southern Railway Company.-Mr. Geoffrion. House again in committee on Bill (No. 134) respecting the representation of the Yukon Territory in the House of Commons.-The Minister of the Interior.


CON

Edward Arthur Lancaster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LANCASTER.

I move to add as subsection (a) to section 29 the following, which will not interfere with the numbering of the other sections of the Bill :

In the compilation of such list the enumerator may only enter therein the names of such person or persons as shall, by statutory declaration filed with him, be declared by such person or persons, or some agent having personal knowledge of the facts declared therein, be entitled to vote under the provisions of this Act.

Section, as amended, agreed to.

On section 30,

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The MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR.

I move that the word ' eight,' the second word in the third line, be changed to [DOT]fifteen,' in accordance with the understanding arrived at yesterday.

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Edward Arthur Lancaster

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LANCASTER.

That is all right.

Section, as amended, agreed to.

On section 31,

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The MINISTER OF THE INTERIOR moved :

That the word ' two ' in the second line ot section 31 be -struck out and that the word ' seven ' be inserted in lieu thereof.

Section, as amended, agreed to.

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May 10, 1902