April 11, 1902

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Adam Edward Vrooman

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. VROOMAN.

I have heard it said the chickens died owing to the way they were fed. Has the department discovered by this time if that is the case ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

I am not able to answer that question.

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Adam Edward Vrooman

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. VROOMAN.

I have been told they were fed on buttermilk, and it caused the liver to grow'.

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

I do not think they w'ere fed on buttermilk. We did not make any such experiments.

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George William Fowler

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOWLER.

Were the chickens who died of this chickenpox examined by veterinarians ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

I do not think they were.

Hon. Mr. ROSS (Victoria, N.S.) I think, to remove all doubts, W'e should issue a commission to go down to Glengarry and ascertain the cause of these chickens dying. But speaking seriously, this business of feeding and shipping chickens is now in its initial stage. Some parties have been successful, and others have not. But people are getting better acquainted with it, and if you allow this process to go on you will find that next year and the year following the export of chickens will keep on increasing in value. One man may try the business and fail, and another may try and succeed. That is the way in every business because if every man succeeded we would all be so rich that the country could not contain us.

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George Taylor (Chief Opposition Whip; Whip of the Conservative Party (1867-1942))

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. TAYLOR.

The minister will persist in making a statement to this House that the business has been profitable, and he answers my hon. friend here that the cost

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

Of course the milk requires to be in good condition. I am glad to say that in Canada there is practically no skim milk cheese made, nor is there any skimming of the milk at the factories. That matter has been thoroughly gone into by our dairy officers. We have our inspectors, and the cheese-makers themselves look after the quality of the milk.

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Charles Edwin Kaulbach

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. KAULBACH.

Would not the milk suffer from being drawn a long distance to the factory ?

Now, Sir. Sainsburg may have been a farmer, and there is not an item there that any farmer would not have to pav for in the chicken business. There is nothing there for experimental work or instruction to the farmer. The chickens were shipped and sold, and there is $10 return, leaving a deficiency of $237. Now, did these chickens die ? There is the published statement of the hon. gentleman. I simply read the items that he furnishes the department of the Auditor General, including the expenditure for chickens and their feed, boxes to ship them in, and freight, that any other farmer would have to pay. Besides, he allowed his political friends where he established the station, some pay for looking after them. But the experimental work was done by the department the same as in Glengarry. At Bondville, Que., there was a loss of $239; at Charlottetown, a loss of $105; at Sussex, N.B., a loss of $198, and at Chatham, of $237 ; and so it goes.

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George William Fowler

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOWLER.

Is it the intention of the minister to establish more of these fattening stations the coming year, and at what points ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

We will have more stations going on this year, I cannot say yet the exact points, and some will be continued where they are.

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George William Fowler

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. FOWLER.

Has the minister made up his mind which ones will be continued, whether it will be the most successful or the least successful ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

I think they have all been so successful as to justify me in continuing them.

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Charles Edwin Kaulbach

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. KAULBACH.

As the discussion has been carried on with respect to chickens and cheese, I would ask the minister if he has given any attention to the supervision of the milk carried to the factories, so as to secure its being of a proper quality ? It needs a good quality of milk to make a good cheese for export. Has he taken Mr. TAYLOR.

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

The milk will be drawn to the factory in the future as it has been in the past. It does sometimes suffer from being carried too long a distance.

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Charles Edwin Kaulbach

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. KAULBACH.

Are the manufacturers confined to certain weights of cheese for shipment, or can they make a cheese of any weight they please ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

They can make it of any weight.

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George Taylor (Chief Opposition Whip; Whip of the Conservative Party (1867-1942))

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. TAYLOR.

The minister did not give me information in reference to the great discrepancy in the case at Chatham, where there was a deficiency of $237.63.

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

I cannot explain those figures. No doubt a full explanation can be made in the department.

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George Taylor (Chief Opposition Whip; Whip of the Conservative Party (1867-1942))

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. TAYLOR.

Will the hon. gentleman get it ?

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April 11, 1902