April 4, 1902

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

The hon. gentleman (Mr. Hughes, Victoria) wants me to go on, but I have cases from other counties here that I want to give.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN (Halifax).

Will the hon. minister lay on the Table the names of the enumerators in each case ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

I will look up the name.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN (Halifax).

Will the hon. gentleman name the enumerator charged with this fraud ? And I would like to ask also whether he has made inquiries of the enumerators in any of these cases, and, if so, in which, and what answers has he got ?

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The MINISTER OP AGRICULTURE.

I shall be glad to look up the names and lay them on the Table.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN (Halifax).

Has the hon. minister made inquiry of the enumerators charged with this fraud ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

In some cases that has been done.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN (Halifax).

Has It been done in this particular case ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

I cannot, at this moment say as to that.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN (Halifax).

Does not the hon. minister think it would have been fair to ask an explanation before making this charge on the floor of this House ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

The probability is that when an enumerator

lias made such an exhibition as that, his evidence would not be worth taking. I have here some, cases from the county of Bagot also. In St. Liboire we find the same kind of thing occurring to a very great extent. Here is one item I would like to read :

The stuffing in the town of Acton Vale and in the Parish of St. Andre of Acton, is probably larger, and the evidence of it is absolutely undeniable. Mr. J. E. Marcil, M.P., for Bagot, has resided in Acton Vale for the last forty years, and for thirty years he has been engaged in. business either as a clerk or as a merchant. He had consequently every opportunity of knowing every one in the locality. Mr. Marcil examined in our office the schedules of 1891 and has pointed out to us the names of those who had left the town of Acton Vale or the parish of St. Andre of Acton many years previous to the census of ten years ago.

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Joseph Gagnon, aged 24, son of Alderic Gagnon and of Sophie Gagnon, is registered in the census book, but has not resided in the town of Acton Vale for the last fifteen years.

Leon Mousseau, aged 24, and Alexandre Mousseau, aged 21, both sons of Bdnonie Mousseau and Genevieve Mousseau, are registered on the census book, but have left the locality for over fourteen years.

Parmelie L'Heureux, aged 24, daughter of Leon L'Heureux, appears on the census book, but has not been living in Acton Vale for the the last sixteen years.

Louis Favreau, aged 26; Louise Favreau, aged 14; Dorinda Favreau, aged 21; Eustache Favreau, aged 20; Georges Favreau, aged 18; Charles, aged 31; Marie, aged 11; Delima, aged >0; Johnnie, aged 28; Angele Favreau, aged 47, and John Favreau, aged 35, are all sons and daughters of Louis Favreau and Angele Favreau. They appear in the census book but they were all born in the United States, and have never resided in Acton Vale.

Clara Lambert, aged 19, and Mary Lambert, aged 19, daughters of Pierre and Celima Lambert, are registered, but they had gone to the United States many years previous to the census of 1891.

Joseph Leveillee, aged 43, and his wife, aged 26, are registered with eleven children

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

Mr. Marcil.

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

The present member for Bagot.

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Some hon. MEMBERS

Oh, oh.

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

Who knows the county so well that he has been elected as a Liberal, the first time in many years that a Liberal could be elected there.

The enumerators in the parish of St. Ephrem d'Upton have not been more scrupulous ten years ago than in some other localities in the county of Bagot. Here follow's a list of persons who should not have been registered on the census book.

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Robert Laird Borden (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BORDEN (Halifax).

Was any explanation asked of this enumerator ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

1 cannot tell which were asked for an explanation and which were not.

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April 4, 1902