I have heard a much more considerable amount put down as the price of a seat in the Senate under the Conservative regime, and if the hon. gentleman (Mr. Hughes, Victoria) desires it, the information on that subject may be forthcoming at no distant date.
Sir, when I contemplate the collossal corruption that existed at that period and the fashion in which those huge sums of money were acquired and used, upon my word there is only one man in the whole lot for whom I feel the slightest commiseration, and that man is Mr. Thomas McGreevy. Upon my word, Sir, when we reflect on what that man did and what that man suffered ; when I reflect that he was beggared and broken hearted ; when I reflect on what he did for the party and how the party requited him, I will say to these hon. gentlemen that if they are moved to atone for the sins of their predecessors ; if there is any true repentance in them, let them go to my hon. friend the Minister of Public Works, and I will back their request ; let them beg a plot a little way from the left of these parliament buildings and let them erect there a monument to Mr. Thomas McGreevy, and I will supply the inscription. That inscription will be :
' To the memory of Thomas McGreevy, victim and martyr, who did more than any other human being to put the Conservative party in power in 1878 and keep them in power regardless of expense for thirteen years. Who was imprisoned and bankrupted by them.
' Had he served his country as faithfully as he served his party leaders, the name of Thomas McGreevy would have stood high on the roll of Canadian patriots.'
Now, Sir, why do I recall these things ?
I recall them for one purpose and for one alone. I want that future historians and the people of this country may know what sort of a price the people have to pay when they choose to substitute plausible charletans for able and faithful public servants. Further I know things are very apt to slip from the , public mind. I know very well that the cotemporary history of all things is the least , known by the men of to-day. We are con- i stantly forgetting what has happened in : our own time. Ordinary business men and ordinary professional men really know 1 nothing of the co-temporary history of their own time, and even in our own House members succeed other so fast that all recollection of these things is apt to pass away within a very short time. But, : Sir, I think the House should understand one thing; it would be well that hon. 1 gentlemen and it would be well that the country should understand one thing and that is this : That protection (at any rate . as they practiced it) and corruption are practically convertible terms. I do not mean to say that a government may not be j 44J
corrupt and yet not protectionist. That may be. But I do say that human nature being as it is, it is almost impossible for a government to be protectionist and escape being corrupt. And I will add this further ; I will add that while I think protection and corruption are practically inseparable; I will add that I likewise believe for my part, that protection and true freedom "are all but absolutely incompatible. On that I will give you words of another more eloquent than any I can utter. Here are some remarks which are very much indeed to the purpose. The gentleman whom I quote says :
I come to expose to you the policy of the Liberal party. Let me 'tell you that policy may be resumed in the good Saxon word 'freedom' in every sense of the term; freedom of speech, freedom of action, freedom of religious life and civil life, and last, not least, freedom in commercial life
In the American Republic you have the line of cleavage which exists between the Liberal party and the Conservative party
the question of free trade. We stand for freedom, they stand for restriction; they stand for servitude; we stand for freedom.
I denounce to you the policy of protection as bondage; yen, bondage, and I refer to bondage in the same manner in which the American slr.tery was bondage ; not in the same degree
perhaps, but in the same manner In
the same manner the people of this country, the inhabitants of the city of Winnipeg especially, are toiling for a master, who takes away, not every cent of profit, but a very large percentage, a very great portion of your earning3 for which you toil and sweat