March 7, 1902

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

An expenditure on the custom-house, of $933.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

Will that be by day's labour ?

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

Yes.

Mr. SPItOULE. Judging by the figures given in the Auditor General's Report, which show only a number of small expenditures, the buildings must be in fairly good repair. The same thing would be indicated by the fact that we see here in the estimates ' appropriations not required for 1902-1903, $17,900.'

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William Forsythe McCreary

Liberal

Mr. McCREARY.

I was rather surprised when I saw this sum of $5,000 in the estimates as the total that was going to be spent in the province of Manitoba next year for Dominion public buildings. When we compared that $5,000 with the amount to be expended in other provinces, even, judging on the basis of population, it will be seen that we are very small potatoes indeed.

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An hon. MEMBER.

The buildings are in good' condition.

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William Forsythe McCreary

Liberal

Mr. McCREARY.

I beg the hon. gentleman's pardon, the buildings are not in good condition. I know the Dominion immigration hall at AVinnipeg pretty well, and I know that it is certainly not in good condition. The Dominion immigration hall should be reserved entirely for foreign immigrants, and for British immigrants there should be a new building distinct and apart from it. The best class of immigrants do not care to go into the Dominion immigration hall. I am not afraid to say that, because I know it. Every year, about March or April, there are some contagious diseases, and the building is in such a condition that it is almost impossible to keep it as it should be kept. What I did two years ago, was to rent a building on the edge of the river, which happened to be vacant, and put the British immigrants there, reserving them a place for themselves. The consequence was that we got the best class. Not only the steerage passengers, but the intermediate passengers went to that building, and they were quite content. Why ? Because it was a good 27

place for them to stay. AA'e had it fitted up with beds so that the people could have a rest. As I understand it, the Dominion immigration halls at Quebec, Halifax and other places are fitted up splendidly, with beds provided and every accommodation. Much more is this required in the Dominion immigration hall at Winnipeg. When the immigrant crosses from the seaboard he likes to rest over at Winnipeg for a day or even two or three days. They are weary with their journey, the children are exhausted, and they like to get a good rest. The immigration hall should be fitted up much better than it is. With regard to the post office building at Winnipeg, I know something about that because I live in the city, and a great number of my constituents come to the city for their mail as my constituency touches the city on three sides embracing such parishes as Kildonan and St. James and part of Rockwood. The Winnipeg post office is almost a disgrace. The revenue of that post office makes it the third in the Dominion, yet I have seen, at the general inquiry wicket an average of eight or ten people waiting their turn to ask for mail matter. The first floor of that building is entirely too small. This year land should be bought, even if the building of an extension is not carried on at once. On Main St., property is going up so rapidly that, if it continues at the present rate it will double in a little over a year. Property that was bought by Messrs. Osier, Hammond and Nanton at $600 a foot-50 feet of it, not on a corner-was sold to certain parties for $1,000 a foot almost spot cash, and a building is to be erected upon it fifteen stories high. That land is almost opposite the post office. The banks, wholesale houses and other enterprising institutions are buying real estate and erecting large buildings. I would urge upon the minister that, before the property gets too valuable, a site should be secured either alongside the post office, or in rear of it, and a new building erected, and then remove the custom-house, inland revenue office and the land office and centralize them all in one place. The Dominion government should keep pace with the progress that is being made there and be ready to meet the wishes of the people.

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Edward Frederick Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE.

Has any representation been made to the Minister of Public Works as to the unsatisfactory state of the Dominion immigration building in AVinnipeg ?

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC AVORKS.

I do not remember any other representations having been made to me. My hon. friend must not forget that I am only a builder. That immigration building is under the care of the Minister of the Interior. AVhen he wants repairs and applies to me, I make them, but I do not remember having received any application for another building.

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Edward Frederick Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE.

Is a building rented for the accommodation of those immigrants of British origin, or are they herded along with the foreign elements ?

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

I see the hon. gentleman is urging the erection of another building.

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Edward Frederick Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE.

If we want additional accommodation. Has a building been rented for the purpose of providing accommodation for the British immigrants there?

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

If one has been rented, it was not done by my department. I have none under my charge. I don't know whether my engineer has rented a building.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir. SPROULE.

If there is any necessity for an additional building or enlargement of a present one, would not application therefor be made by the Minister of the Interior to the Department of Public Works ?

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The SIINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

Yes.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

And no application has been made ?

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Tie SIINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

Not that I remember, and not that my officers remember.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

I suppose if new buildings were erected it would devolve on the Department of Public Works to look after them, light them, pay water rates, and so on ?

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The SIINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

Yes, all that; except that in some cases the Militia Department take care of their own buildings.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

Who is clerk in Winnipeg ?

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The SIINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

Sir. Cyr is in charge for the province.

Public Works-North-west Territories-Carn-duff court-house, $3,000.

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March 7, 1902