March 7, 1902

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

So many requests are sent in-I cannot tell all.

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William Alfred Galliher

Liberal

Mr. GALLIHER.

I may say to the hon. member for North Victoria (Mr. Hughes) that these four armouries are in my district. I made the request for them, and made it pretty strongly too. You must npt forget that the district I represent is nearly equal in area to the province of Ontario. So, if I have four armouries in my district, it does not necessarily follow that they are very close together. We in British Columbia are in a different position from the people of Ontario. A great part of our country is mountainous and we require not only armouries, but places where we can drill summer and winter. I do not think that any hon. gentlemen who have been in British Columbia will say that money spent in armouries in that province is not well invested. We are pretty well in the wilds, but we have a few citizens in that province who like to have reasonable accommodation as well as the people in the east. And the hon. gentleman, (Mr. Hughes) who is a colonel in the militia well knows that we sent from British Columbia to the South African war quite

a number of men-probably a larger number in proportion to our population than any other part of Canada.

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William Alfred Galliher

Liberal

Mr. GALLIHER.

And good men too. And we want to keep up our credit. When we have men enterprising enough to band together, we want to encourage them to do so. 1 have been associated with the militia myself for a number of years, and I can speak feelingly in the matter. I know that is necessary, and I agree with the suggestion thrown out by the hon. member for Simcoe that they not only want a place in which to store arms, but a place to drill in, and also a place in which to meet for social intercourse. A place of this latter kind is very taking in a western city, because we have not many places in those little western towns where the men can meet together to read the newspapers and magazines, and have a little social chat after their drill. Now, I am pleased indeed with the generosity of the Minister of Public Works and the Minister of Militia and Defence in giving us a drill shed in that community. True, we pay very heavily into the Dominion treasury from the province of British Columbia, and we feel in the past that we have not been getting what we were entitled to. I do not know that I would go so far as to say with one member from British Columbia that we are still complaining. We are, however, still saying that in proportion to the revenue we pay into the Federal treasury the expenditure made by the Dominion in that province is very small. However, I have nothing to complain of in connection with these drill halls that are being established in my district. I thank the minister for meeting my request in this matter. I will say this, now while I am on the subject, that in the town of Nelson where I live, the appropriation will not build a drill hall there, even according to the specifications, and I call the special attention of the minister to the fact, because I mean to approach him again for more money in connection with the Nelson drill hall. We have given in the town of Nelson two lots within the fire limits, and you all know there is a law against building a certain class of building within the fire limits. We have given two lots worth $4,000 to $5,000 as a free site to the government for a drill hall. The hall cannot be built of wood, as I believe is the present intention, for the reason that the city will not permit it to be built of wood. I am merely throwing out the suggestion, so that the minister may be prepared to see me come to him again to ask for a sum in the supplementary -estimates which will be sufficient to allow us to put up such a building as the city by-laws will require within the fire limits.

Mr. HUGHES (King's, P.E.I.) While this item is under consideration, I wish to call the attention of the Minister of Militia and Defence and the Minister of Public Works to the fact that in the town from which I come, Souris, P.E.X., we have no armoury, and yet we have there a very efficient company of artillery. I wish to say to the Minister of Militia and Defence that I think he can build an armoury in connection with the drill shed there for $200 or $250, though it would have to be a wooden building. The minister knows that the Fourth Regiment to which this company belongs has an excellent record, and I hope, now that I have drawn the matter to his attention, he will take the application into consideration and if possible provide us with an armoury. It is a moderate amount, and comes very near the amount mentioned by the member for North Victoria (Mr. Hughes). Of course it would be a wooden building, and built as an annex to the present drill shed.

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The MINISTER OF MILITIA AND DEFENCE.

AVhat my hon. friend says about the artillery regiment there I know to be absolutely true. Certainly his request is a very modest one, and even if it were not as modest as it is, I should think it was one we might deal with promptly. And as there is in the militia vote a sum for repairs and additions of this kind, if my hon. friend the Minister of Public Works is not particularly anxious to do this work, I think I may undertake to say that the Militia Department will look after it in the near future.

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

If my hon. friend is short of money I will do it.

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Samuel Hughes

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. HUGHES (Victoria).

Why is it that there is no sum brought down for an armoury for this Rossland company ?

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William Alfred Galliher

Liberal

Mr. GALLIHER.

I suppose the reason is that apparently in the east the government have been buying sites for armouries, while in the west all these sites are being provided free to the government. If no selection has been made in Rossland, it is the fault of the people and not the fault of the minister; but I can promise that will be attended to.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

What is the reason for the distinction between the tvest and the east in supplying sites ?

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William Alfred Galliher

Liberal

Mr. GALLIHER.

I do not know whether that distinction is general or not, but in listening to the discussion to-night I understood that sites in the east had been purchased by the government. If that is not the case, then I withdraw that remark. But I know that in British Columbia we are furnishing the sites free, and I may say that we are very glad to do so if we can

only get a decent class of buildings put up on tliem. The only reason Rossland is not mentioned is simply because they have not yet furnished the government that site, although I have requested them to do so. But that will be attended to, and then I shall come to the minister for a grant.

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Charles Hibbert Tupper

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir CHARLES HIBBERT TUPPER.

May I ask what is the rule with regard to sites ? Are they only purchased in certain parts of Canada, and have they to be given free in other parts ?

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

There has never been any fixed rule. It is very far from being the rule in British Columbia that all sites are furnished free, because I have been obliged to pay large sums of money for sites for public buildings.

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Samuel Hughes

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. HUGHES (Victoria).

I trust that the minister, now that the matter has been brought to his attention, will consider this question of company and battalion drill sheds, and if it is possible, to give each company headquarters a room in which the arms may be kept, and also a recreation room where the boys can meet for social intercourse after going through their drill. I would be pleased if the minister were to furnish us with such a building, although I am satisfied the regiment will not even ask that much, but will follow the example which the Minister of Militia and Defence says he has set in his own county.

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

I would be only too glad, if the militiamen will change their mind in the direction indicated by my hon. friend, because I am stating gospel truth when I say that these militiamen want very expensive buildings. Every time they come on a deputation, I am frightened, because they want so much money.

Experimental farms-New buildings and renewals, improvements, repairs, &c., in connection with existing buildings, fences, &c., $10,000.

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Samuel Hughes

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. HUGHES (Victoria).

I do not want to discuss this item farther than to urge upon the hon. Minister of Agriculture to look into the advisability of establishing an experimental farm in southern Alberta and one in the vicinity of Edmonton.

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

That would be a question of the extension of the experimental farm system which should not be lightly undertaken. It has been discussed several times in the House and has nothing to do with this vote which is simply for repairs.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

What repairs do you intend to make ? Is this just a general vote ?

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The MINISTER OF PUBLIC WORKS.

Yes, this is a general vote for repairs on all the farms.

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Thomas Simpson Sproule

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPROULE.

There are some important questions in connection with experimental farms which must be dealt with, but, I presume, they will more properly come up on some other items, on the agricultural vote, or the vote for cold storage. Perhaps the hon. minister will not be prepared to answer questions now on that subject.

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March 7, 1902