February 25, 1902

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Sydney Arthur Fisher (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Hon. Mr. FISHER.

take to read all these names or to count them. Opposite each name is the amount which is paid. This work has been done for years under the supervision of the statistician, Mr. George Johnson, and has been carried out In the same way. I have not the details as to the exact number of cents paid to each individual, but the same principle has been carried out and if a change is to be made it will have to be made by practically wiping out the collection of these criminal statistics. I confess that I have not myself gone into the value of these criminal statistics. I found the system in vogue when I came into office and I was Informed that it was useful to statisticians, lawyers and others who are particularly interested in criminals and I left it in their hands.

Statistical Year-book, $4,000.

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William Humphrey Bennett

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT.

Would the hon. gentleman Inform us what the Statistical Yearbook cost in 1896 ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

I think it was about $4,000 in 1896.

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Andrew B. Ingram

Liberal-Conservative

Mr. INGRAM.

Have you increased the number in circulation ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

Yes.

Mr. TAY'LOR. I notice that the two items for the services that Mr. Geo. Johnson, the statistician, has charge of, that is the item for the collection of criminal statistics, and the item for the publication of the Yearbook are the same now as they were in 1895 and 1896. This work certainly has increased in proportion to all the other services rendered by the hon. gentleman's department, but notwithstanding this fact, there is an increase in every other branch of from 50 to 100 per cent, while the votes for these services are not increased.

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

When I came into office in 1896 I found that expenditure. I found also that I was able by reducing the volume of the Statistical Year-book I was able to reduce the expenditure and if the hon. gentleman will go to the years 1898-1899, 1899-1900, he will find that we only spent $3,000.

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George Taylor (Chief Opposition Whip; Whip of the Conservative Party (1867-1942))

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. TAYLOR.

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

$3,000 in 1899-1900. Last year it was $4,000, and it is $4,000 again this year.

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James Clancy

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLANCY.

Will the hon. gentleman tell us how the distribution is made ? I understand that four copies are given to each member of this House, so many copies go to the Senate and certain institutions of learning, ministers of the gospel, and so on. Will the hon. gentleman tell how the distribution is made and in what proportion besides the distribution to members of this

House as well as tlie whole number published ?

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

Mr. Johnson has a list of institutions and people who seem to be interested in the statistics comprised in this book. That list is occasionally gone over and occasionally added to. The increased number has been owing to the fact that recently, by request of this House, we have established a regular distribution to members of the House and the Senate. This book is not distributed in the same way as printed matter printed by order of this House. It is paid for by the vote of my department. Ordinary reports which are distributed wholesale to" the members of the House of Commons are paid for by the House of Commons and are under the control of the House of Commons Printing Committee. This Year-book is not, but notwithstanding that we are asking in this vote a sum of money to print it and to distribute a certain number to every member of the House of Commons and every senator. The others are distributed to public libraries, mechanics' institutes, to some teachers, and to those who have asked for it. The list is in Mr. Johnson's hand, but I have no doubt I could get it. It would be very voluminous.

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

Last year 5,000 English and 1,200 French. Four copies are sent to each member and senator, making about 1,200 copies, and the rest are distributed generally.

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

I cannot say.

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

There is only one copy sent to any particular body. Fifty copies are sent to the High Commissioner in London, and a considerable number are distributed on personal application.

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James Clancy

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLANCY.

My reason for asking is that some persons, for unaccountable reasons, seem to be in possession of the Yearbook, while others seem unable to get it. There should be some uniform distribution and some system adopted. I would ask the item to stand.

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

I will certainly consent to that, but I may say that I do not think that any application for the Year-book has been refused so long as there was a book available in the department. There has been no picking and choosing. There has been considerable demand for back numbers, but the English edition for 1893, 1891, 1895 and 1890 is exhausted. There is now a greater demand for the French edition than in former years, but there are no copies of the French edition left for 1891, 1S93, 1891 and 1895. I repeat that no applicant has been refused so long as there was a copy of the book left.

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James Clancy

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLANCY.

My object is to arrive at some uniform system of distribution, and with that object in view I want the information.

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The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE.

Would it suit if I got a report from the statistician and sent it to the hon. gentleman ?

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February 25, 1902